#958: "Well, of course you'd say that."

[argv]

If Megahedron is the result of :rmage:'s three-point hallucination flaw, then Megahedron is effectively a part of :rmage:'s mind. Since :rmage: is a genius, any part of his mind is worth listening to, especially when it brings dire news.

[Nuklear Waste]

Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

Oooh reddish background. Does that mean that, if Megahedron is real, he's aligned to Darko?

I'm reading way too much into this.

I saw it as "Red Mage is bad so he gets sent to a limbo-like place". But then again Black Mage now gets sent to "villain's heaven" (with blood-red clouds instead of lava).

[sparafucile]

Typo in 'therefor'!

Glad to see some more of Megahedron at any rate!

[Flarecobra]

And WHY do I see Thief going "SOME dragons exist. I never said all never existed."

[Organism X]

Brilliant comic. I mean, even Brian can't understand it.

[Lord Setheris]

I think BB will return as the patron spirit of white mage.

And that is going to be sad.

[Lightnix]

I love how he ignores being able to talk to the megahedron in a relatively unscathed body, even if only in his mind, just to wake up in a horribly burnt body.

[bluestarultor]

Looking at the logic presented in the comic, Megahedron MUST be real, as it is proven that he is unable to convince RM, and would otherwise be able to do so if he were part of RM's own mind. RM is perfectly well capable of convincing himself of most anything, and in this case, he's convinced himself Megahedron isn't real.

In short, RM's own faulty logic is preventing him from realizing that his inability to be convinced by MH should actually convince him of the reality of MH's existence.


Edit: To explain my own logic better:

They argue at first:

RM assumes MH is not real.
MH asserts he is.
RM is not convinced.

A
B
A

MH banks on his own intelligence in comparison to RM:

RM asserts he is too intelligent to be convinced by MH.
MH asserts that as a part of RM's mind, he would be equally as intelligent.
RM is convinced, and therefore assumes unreality.

A
B
*CRASH!*


We just divided by zero. RM's logic assumes that he is, in fact, smarter then Megahedron. It does NOT account for the possibility that MH, as a higher being, is likely smarter than he, and therefore able to convince him. MH is proven to be AT LEAST AS SMART as RM. The fact that MH brings outside news indicates that he is, in fact, real, because RM can't possibly know anything outside his own experience. However, it's only an indication, and the fact that said news is never delivered leaves the question ambiguous. However, other factors can be thrown in to offer credence to MH's reality, such as the common theme of red is dealings with the "spirit world," which, admittedly, RM has no experience with, and the quality of MH's own arguments in relation to RM's.


Edit^2: To clarify further, the fact that RM, under his own assumption of superiority, is convinced by MH, and then uses that conviction to convince himself otherwise, means he took a step forward in a flawed bit of logic. If he were to take another step forward, he would realize that that step would inevitably lead to his own realization that his disbelief based on belief would cycle back to belief. Based on the logic involved, it could either cycle continuously, or he might have stayed on belief based on the realization that his own logic was flawed, while MH's logic, while more ambiguous in the answer, holds completely true because of the lack of RM's assumption that MH is AS OR LESS intelligent compared to RM, rather than the logical outcome of MH's own argument that he is AS OR MORE intelligent. The outcomes only overlap at the equal mark, making it certain that they are AT LEAST EQUALLY intelligent, proving that numeric value as one shared between the two outcomes of their individual logics, forcing inclusion into the valid argument the MH proposed.


In other words, MH's argument is the better one, based on the fact that it holds true with the conditions and outcomes of the exchange, while RM makes an assumption that invalidates his own argument, proving that MH is more intelligent than RM, which fits into MH's argument, but not RM's. And as per the arguments of both, a figment of RM's imagination CANNOT be more intelligent than RM, meaning that MH, by both their logics, MUST be real.

[Zakreon]

because RM can't possibly know anything outside his own experience.

That has never stopped him before.

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Zakreon

That has never stopped him before.

Ah, but those were things he knew of. He knew there were Life spells, and simply cast one he shouldn't have been able to. He already knows Ice spells, so he was able to trick himself into casting Ice-9.


If you'll notice, all of his successful endeavors have had a base in something he already had at least a basic understanding of. He has yet to fully create something new.