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Unread 06-11-2009, 09:43 AM   #11
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Wait. So Sarda knows his younger self grows up in a world not terrorized by the four. And he says none of it comes to pass. So if the world isn't terrorized, and is a good place, wouldn't fighter survive, because he makes the world a better place? Or couldn't he do that in the first place to make SURE there are actually good, and Competent advenurers?
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Unread 06-11-2009, 09:44 AM   #12
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This could also mean that Sarda loses and Fighter's plan turns out to be the most effective. e: ^ kind of like that.
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Unread 06-11-2009, 09:44 AM   #13
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I thought Sarda said he was able to see through all time (I figured using his awesome most-powerful-wizard-in-existence powers). And now it turns out that he was just using his memory?
Wow, talk about hype.

All of a sudden there I can once again imagine them actually surviving this.

EDIT: And by hype, I meant - Wow, Sarda is such a bullshit artist.
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Unread 06-11-2009, 09:44 AM   #14
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Also, I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit I did not see Sarda's point [re: his younger self witnessing a LW-free world] coming as confirmation of his "knowing" of future events. I wonder now how much OK/Young Sarda will witness of his older self, thus rounding out the time loop for all of his existence.
Sarda's past (before the billion years of isolation and shit) is the LW's future. So Sarda knows everything the OK is going to experience before the OK goes back in time, hence he knows what the OK will know. The OK lives in the world of the future.

Basically, because the OK will never hear anything about the LWs ever again, Sarda assumes that the LWs won't accomplish anything they wanted to accomplish.

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So if the world isn't terrorized, and is a good place, wouldn't fighter survive, because he makes the world a better place?
Maybe, but not necessarily. Just because the world isn't terrorized doesn't mean that good people don't die.
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Unread 06-11-2009, 09:45 AM   #15
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WARNING: This post is segmented horribly and is mostly an tribute to RM.

From the LW point of view, it's entirely possible, though unlikely, that Sarda is lying about knowing they fail. I mean wouldn't you in his situation?

But anyway, RM is going to rock this thing. There are four things that had a chance to defeat Sarda from the readers' view point.

BM's Insane physical power. - Failed.
Fighter becoming the true hero that he is and miraculously defeating Sarda.
RM coming up with a plan so ingenious that Sarda is defeated.
Sarda screwing himself over somehow.

Those are the only four scenarios I see with Sarda biting the big one.

My personal hope? RM does attain his place in godhood. Wherein he creates a world that shows OK/Sarda what he wants to see. But I suppose this is being a little selfish on RM's part.

But in all honesty, I was hoping for a more humble future for RM. Like using his infinite knowledge to write a tome, or better yet! reinstituting the school of red magery. This time however his infinite knowledge will allow for a more cost effective method of teaching.
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Unread 06-11-2009, 09:51 AM   #16
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....But in all honesty, I was hoping for a more humble future for RM. Like using his infinite knowledge to write a tome, or better yet! reinstituting the school of red magery. This time however his infinite knowledge will allow for a more cost effective method of teaching.
So practice on street urchins first?

Also, What if thief some how steals Sarda's power or memory or something. He does have insane thief abilities.

I want a school taught by fighter. Then that would mean a World of Sword-chuk using adventures!
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Unread 06-11-2009, 09:53 AM   #17
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Basically, because the OK will never hear anything about the LWs ever again, Sarda assumes that the LWs won't accomplish anything they wanted to accomplish.
By which, of course, you mean the LW's, not LK's!!!! Dun, dun, duuuuunnnnnnn!

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Unread 06-11-2009, 09:56 AM   #18
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But in all honesty, I was hoping for a more humble future for RM. Like using his infinite knowledge to write a tome, or better yet! reinstituting the school of red magery. This time however his infinite knowledge will allow for a more cost effective method of teaching.
I'm going to get you excited so it hurts you more when it doesn't happen.

There's a good reason why Sarda is using red if you know what I mean.
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Unread 06-11-2009, 09:57 AM   #19
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My bet is on when Sarda teleported Onion Kid out of there, he actually, unbeknownst to him, teleported OK to a previous time where the light warriors didn't exist to grow up.
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Unread 06-11-2009, 09:59 AM   #20
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How did RM attain infinite knowledge again? Wasn't by gazing into the database BM was supposed to look at? In that case he only knows how to destroy anything in any way possible as I remember correctly. I guess that includes an uppity all powerful jackass wizard named Sarda.
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