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Unread 01-17-2010, 02:42 AM   #11
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Just in case this was ever unclear (apparently, it wasn't).

And yes, Conan was very experimental and although I'd say the late night comedy routine always has a certain commentary style that can make even the most offensive material go down smooth, he did lean towards... well, this.
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Unread 01-17-2010, 04:38 AM   #12
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Did you all see where Conan had apparently placed the Tonight Show on Craigslist? ("Only slightly used", if I recall it correctly.) I don't have the link, and it's possible it's been yanked for good now, but nevertheless it's been simply magnificent to see him tear into NBC so much lately.
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Unread 01-17-2010, 01:00 PM   #13
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Like I said, safe and inoffensive.
You make it sound like a bad thing somehow. :p
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Unread 01-17-2010, 08:52 PM   #14
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It's not a bad thing, safe sells. It's just a bit bland and flavorless, especially after 17 years.
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Unread 01-17-2010, 11:18 PM   #15
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Did you all see where Conan had apparently placed the Tonight Show on Craigslist? ("Only slightly used", if I recall it correctly.) I don't have the link, and it's possible it's been yanked for good now, but nevertheless it's been simply magnificent to see him tear into NBC so much lately.
Looks like a good deal. Think we need a "Late Night NPF Talk Show"?
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Unread 01-18-2010, 04:08 AM   #16
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I for one would love an NPF talk show. Do you think they'd be willing to trade the Tonight Show for a slightly used vinyl copy of Bob Dylan At Budokan :p ?
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Perhaps I don't give Jimmy Kimmel as much credit as he may be due, for he can be pretty funny. It seemed like at least a few of these hit the mark.

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As to the whole thing, I think it's a very dick move by NBC. However, I don't think Conan is the best for the Tonight Show time slot. He worked better later at night, when the younger audience that loves him would still be watching. Plus that conflicted less with Colbert. I haven't looked at ratings numbers, but I'd hardly be surprised to see Conan losing NBC ratings compared to before.
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Default The Tonight Show at 12:05 simply isn't the Tonight Show?
Dude should visit Sweden, we get the Tonight Show at arbitrary times between 15 and 03. And several weeks late.
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Unread 01-18-2010, 05:17 PM   #19
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Plus that conflicted less with Colbert.
And this right here is why I was actually looking forward to the Tonight Show moving to 12:05 with Conan at the helm. By all accounts, it seems like a dick move on NBC's part, but the the most probable reason that Conan's ratings were hurting was because all of his best segments were up against Colbert, and Colbert had the superior lead-in of The Daily Show compared to Conan's Local 11 o'clock news, so his target audience wasn't switching over to watch him.

The whole thing really would have solved everyone's ratings problems, and while I support Conan as host of the Tonight Show, I can't honestly say I support his clinging to tradition to the point of quitting his job over it from a reasonable standpoint.

However, I also feel that, if anyone should be walking out of the contract over this, it should be Leno, and the fact that he's refusing to pass the torch that he promised to pass when the chips are down says a lot about his character.
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Unread 01-18-2010, 05:53 PM   #20
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But you know, the more I think about it, I understand both perspectives. I see anyone in the Leno camp over here all "Hey look he didn't ask for this but I don't understand why they can't they just go along with what the network decides. Crappy as it is, it's theirs to do what they want with it" and the Conan camp more "Hey Jay acted like it was his show to give in the first place, so why should they play along with the network if they make crappy decisions!?"

The only people to really be mad at is the heads at NBC for allowing Jay to act/think like this was in anyway his decision to begin with if they had no intention of allowing him and Conan to play a part in determining the show's future. Jay should be more outspoken if he isn't happy with the decision, even if he thinks ultimatly they should play along with the network.
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