Pokemon Umbral Discussion 12: Is Impact the Piccolo of Pokemon Umbral?

[Geminex]

Argh. I can't find the post where the kimonos are at the ruins, discussing primal exist and legendaries. Somebody, help?
Edit: Never mind, found it.
Edit2: Thanks to Menarker for attempting to help. He is a Helper, let it be known.

If the situation wasn't so dire, I'd totally have Impact get drunk during the party. Perhaps when all the combat's over.
Also, AB, sorry about the questions. But Impact is curious, and so am I.

And Pierce, the way I see it is, Shizuka and Impact spar for a bit, Impact loses, doesn't take it personally. Maybe Pierce gets a bit cocky, wants to fight Shizuka next, readies the knife, Impact tosses him the blade, tells him he'd like to see him do better, Pierce gets beaten soundly, does take it personally, demands a rematch, is denied a rematch, Impact jumps in and challenges Pierce. Pierce is still glowering over getting beaten, wants to go after Shizuka again, but accepts Impact's challenge.

Later, during whichever combat takes place, he'll be trying to compete with Shizuka, match her skill.
That sound good?

[Dracorion]

No.

What? No.

Absolutely not.

Or you can be damn sure Pierce will be defying Impact at every turn just to spite you.

But really, Pierce will challenge Shizuka (and he will do so first), and ask to borrow Impact's sword. Impact gives it to him to, I dunno, get some bonus points with Pierce? You're probably the best person to figure out why Impact would give Pierce the sword.

Pierce wouldn't take losing to Shizuka personally. Even if Impact lost to her first (which he won't get a chance to). After he lost, he'd immediately figure out a new possible strategy. I think he'd ask Shizuka for a three-round duel, so he could try out several things.

What the hell does Matt mean that the traitor's got something to do with the Gendom back at the bank? Ricewood is the one that put the Gendom there. Unless he means the trainer made Ricewood put the egg there. Hmmmm...

I don't know how much coordination AB and Matt have, but my guess is Vladier Burkmont has a mole in PATCA.

[DanteFalcon]

Are you honestly going to try and tell me that someone found this Gendom, gave it to the museum who promptly put it in this vault and at no point someone wondered "Hey I wonder where the parent pokemon went off to?" Or thought to examine it closely? I doubt its so picture perfect that no one would find a difference. Thus I find two answers

A) The universe is blind and retarded.

B) Someone is covering things up.

I'd prefer to plan for B and be wrong.

Edit: While I'm at it it conveniently woke up during the museum attack and the watchmen intervention. What are the chances? My bet is not very high. Thus it was planned (though I'll be the first to call Xanatos Gambit at that), someone took advantage of the moment (for an unknown reason) or someone fucked up. And they were so secure in their plan that it would either kill everyone or that it would be destroyed instead of captured. There's a -lot- of unexplained factors for that mission.

[Dracorion]

Great. So the list of suspects now includes Faynoc and the Progenitor as well as Burkmont.

Though I doubt it's Faynoc since it doesn't seem like he's going to last very long. Maybe the Progenitor is Burkmont.

[Geminex]

But really, Pierce will challenge Shizuka (and he will do so first), and ask to borrow Impact's sword. Impact gives it to him to, I dunno, get some bonus points with Pierce? You're probably the best person to figure out why Impact would give Pierce the sword.

Pierce wouldn't take losing to Shizuka personally. Even if Impact lost to her first (which he won't get a chance to). After he lost, he'd immediately figure out a new possible strategy. I think he'd ask Shizuka for a three-round duel, so he could try out several things.

Dude. That's part of the deal. Impact gets to fight her first, then turns the rivalry over to you, complete with sword. No more interference from his side, at whatever final battle, if he's boss, he'll give Pierce a grin, tell him "go for it". In return Pierce'll be more likely to go for stuff if Impact tells him to. But Impact gets first fight That's what we discussed, remember? It's not of such great importance, but Impact just giving up his sword off the bat, that strikes me as a bit odd. And besides, he's practically spoken his challenge.

And another thing: As far as narrative flow goes, Impact fighting first, losing interest and then Pierce getting rivalrous strikes me as much more... fitting, than Pierce fighting first, then Impact fighting, then Pierce getting the Rivalry.

Though tell you what: Pierce gets to fight first, gets the sword, standard deal, and after the duel, they'll both have some sort of rivalry with Shizuka. Impact's competitiveness, however, will decrease with his lust for power, and control over others (particularly Pierce). It might last a mission or two, by the time he goes demonic, it'll be long gone, Pierce will be sole rival to Shizuka, bla bla bla. Just another way to illustrate Impact's changing character and alignment, and how his way of doing things changes. It won't interfere with Pierce, it'll just create some more character depth, and characterize Impact's and Pierce's relationship.
Yes.
I like that way. Is it acceptable to you?

And take a back seat, a three-round duel? That'd be acceptable if there was anything about Pierce justifying that kind of competitiveness, or if this was Pierce's sidequest, but considering the context and setting, I think one should be plenty. You can have the other two as the RP progresses.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Geminex

Dude. That's part of the deal. Impact gets to fight her first, then turns the rivalry over to you, complete with sword.

That was the deal you agreed to. By first dibs I meant Pierce gets to fight Shizuka first and gets the rivalry.

Originally Posted by Geminex

Though tell you what: Pierce gets to fight first, gets the sword, standard deal, and after the duel, they'll both have some sort of rivalry with Shizuka. Impact's competitiveness, however, will decrease with his lust for power, and control over others (particularly Pierce). It might last a mission or two, by the time he goes demonic, it'll be long gone, Pierce will be sole rival to Shizuka, bla bla bla. Just another way to illustrate Impact's changing character and alignment, and how his way of doing things changes. It won't interfere with Pierce, it'll just create some more character depth, and characterize Impact's and Pierce's relationship.
Yes.
I like that way. Is it acceptable to you?

I suppose.

Originally Posted by Geminex

And take a back seat, a three-round duel? That'd be acceptable if there was anything about Pierce justifying that kind of competitiveness, or if this was Pierce's sidequest, but considering the context and setting, I think one should be plenty. You can have the other two as the RP progresses.

I meant a three round duel as in, each round is Pierce attacking Shizuka, failing, Shizuka kicks his ass soundly. It's take all of three posts.

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by DanteFalcon

Are you honestly going to try and tell me that someone found this Gendom, gave it to the museum who promptly put it in this vault and at no point someone wondered "Hey I wonder where the parent pokemon went off to?" Or thought to examine it closely? I doubt its so picture perfect that no one would find a difference. Thus I find two answers

A) The universe is blind and retarded.

B) Someone is covering things up.

I'd prefer to plan for B and be wrong.

Edit: While I'm at it it conveniently woke up during the museum attack and the watchmen intervention. What are the chances? My bet is not very high. Thus it was planned (though I'll be the first to call Xanatos Gambit at that), someone took advantage of the moment (for an unknown reason) or someone fucked up. And they were so secure in their plan that it would either kill everyone or that it would be destroyed instead of captured. There's a -lot- of unexplained factors for that mission.

I should probably mention that Renny was the one who MENTIONED THIS ENTIRE THING in the first place IN CHARACTER. :3 At the START of the SECOND mission.Too bad he was shot down by Pierce and Impact in the process. If Matt is seriously thinking about it, it's largely in part that Renny contributed the theory right in front of him. HOWEVER, due to recent events, Renny's theory has now been more upgraded with new info and thus way more full-blown.

Anyhow, I sent a PM regarding Renny's full out theory to AB because it asks multiple questions at once and I don't wanna waste time bouncing back and forth. Some of it is naturally full blown young child conspiracy fueled suggestions, but some might very well be interestingly placed. When will it happen? You'll see. Renny will likely be asking the Kimonos and a few related party members privately to avoid being pre-emptively shot down the second time. It was pretty embarressing and damning to him the first time after all.

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Menarker

I should probably mention that Renny was the one who MENTIONED THIS ENTIRE THING in the first place IN CHARACTER. :3 At the START of the SECOND mission.Too bad he was shot down by Pierce and Impact in the process. If Matt is seriously thinking about it, it's largely in part that Renny contributed the theory right in front of him.

Well, Pierce gets his kicks from shooting down Renny, and Renny can get a little overeager in his wild guessing.

[Menarker]

^^ I just had a revelation.

Metaleon purpose in the PATCAzord would be as the mobile R2D2 unit, able to walk around magnetically supported to any steel type, even suspended sideways on Registeel's back, and apply healing items during combat! In a pinch, Emploeon can be removed as the blade piece and given the same purpose to make Bronzong bell shaped opening as a rifle cannon arm ala Megaman!

Renny: You ever seen "Galaxy Combat?"
Rayleen: I might have. Why?
Renny: "Metaleon might serve the purpose of the lovable service robot, moving around and healing damage, while attached to the skin of steel pokemon magnetically!
Metaleon: "You're lucky I like you and my part of this plan, because you're honestly a lunatic."
Renny: And Empleon can be removed as the blade piece and serve the same purpose or apply water cooldown for when fighting against fire types. Bronzong's opening can then be used as a arm cannon for ranged destruction!
Empoleon: Well, that's honestly better than what I'm doing now!
Brongong: *Unintelligble as he's grasped by Registeel by the head.*

[Dracorion]

Alternately, Rachel could switch to Magnezone.