Pokemon Umbral Discussion 27: Prepare For Trouble... - Page 2

Menarker · 06-05-2010, 02:42 AM

Dante brings up a weird question/concept. How does Trick Room work in this game? All allies go before all enemies. Speed is now related to Critical Hit in a way. (Unless we wanted the foes to go before us, which borders on suicidal.) I mean, unless we wanted to play around with Mollesk's crappy speed/critical hit so it became godlike...

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

What the hell are you talking about, assume control? Sorry, you're not taking the plot from me. I am Armored Bishoujo. I am the GM. I am the horizontal. I am the vertical. I will move you from battle to battle until the end of this tragic tale.

Tragic? You mean Renny won't get married to Lola in a huge ceremonial setting vaguely resembling a Christian Church that couldn't possibly exist in the Pokemon World and get a happy ending (or even a happily ever after)?

Astral Harmony · 06-05-2010, 02:43 AM

What're the real questions? I think I'm retarded right now.

Geminex · 06-05-2010, 02:58 AM

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Tragic? You mean Renny won't get married to Lola in a huge ceremonial setting vaguely resembling a Christian Church that couldn't possibly exist in the Pokemon World and get a happy ending (or even a happily ever after)?

If I get my way, Renny will support my regime until he gets executed by the state for collaborating with a dangerous terrorist (Charlotte). Lola can get executed too.

And AB:
My questions were:
- Can Rachel's pokemon actually attack while she's left battle, or can they just get attacked?
- Remind me how items work, exactly? Does everyone need to use an action to use items? How about slayers and pokebrids?
- Do you have time to respon to that PM regarding Impact's sidequest I send you? If so, I'll resend it.

Dracorion · 06-05-2010, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

On the bright side, you do get plot powers in the sequel...y'know...in the year 2011 when this RP finally finishes and a sequel crops up.

Yeah, that'll happen. I'm thinking December 21, 2012 the soonest.

And Gem, Impact will never be put in Rayleen's position what are you, insane?

Geminex · 06-05-2010, 07:32 AM

We'll see about that.

And hey, plot power! That will be fun!

Bard The 5th LW · 06-05-2010, 10:00 AM

Rayleen and Dormond are leaving? That's sad. I liked them.

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If I get my way, Renny will support my regime until he gets executed by the state for collaborating with a dangerous terrorist (Charlotte). Lola can get executed too.

So Charlotte gets executed to? She's not a terrorist anymore! And besides, Impact was once a vigilante. He's broken the law, just the same if less so.

Unless, of course, you are referring to some future conspiracy thing where Impact uses Charlotte to make the populace fear pokemon like him. But then, why would Renny work with her?

Dracorion · 06-05-2010, 10:10 AM

Renny wouldn't work with her, but Impact would make it seem like he did.

Geminex · 06-05-2010, 10:13 AM

Well, I see it this way:

Impact manipulates Renny to support his empire by quite simply broadcasting a message of peace and love and "We don't want to hurt you at all! No need to fortify your borders!". Propaganda, really, but Renny would believe in it.

Impact pretty much makes Charlotte this uber-terrorist, armed with legendaries, attacking the populace of Homnyr. A populace which would be defended by heroic humans. Yeah, inspire pokemon-hatred.

Impact tells Charlotte that Renny has lost his value, they need to discredit him. He'd just tell her to visit him, tell him some wacky tale about an Anti-Pokemon conspiracy, and tell him that she's not actually a terrorist, just a rebel, fighting against oppression. Her given reason for finally seeking him out would be that she couldn't risk contacting him before, but their organization just suffered a massive assault from Slayer Battallions, and most of their members have been caught or killed. She needs help. This reason would, to her knowlege, just be an excuse.

Mind you, while she's off contacting Renny, Impact's Slayers would actually be anihilating her organization, but she doesn't have to know that.

Anyway, she contacts Renny, tells him that Impact's evil, asks for his help.

Renny, being Renny, would most likely try to help her.

So, they'd arrange to meet, and while at this meeting, they'd be ambushed by Impact's forces. Charlotte would ask Renny to help her fight their way out, Impact would do something to make Renny sufficiently mad to comply (I'm thinking that, if they're within sight of Renny's house, he'd just have his air-force bomb Renny's property).

Charlotte would have expected some sort of opposition, but the amount of forces ambushing them would be way larger than she would've expected, since, to her knowlege, she was supposed to get away with Renny.

Anyway, then you'd have Renny fighting alongside a known terrorist against police and national guard. Renny=Terrorist. Gets caught, put on trial, gets executed.

Charlotte wouldn't even get caught, she'd just die in battle.

It's efficient!

Bard The 5th LW · 06-05-2010, 10:39 AM

Is Renny that gullible? True question, he might gain some experience and competence over the years. I'm sure that Charlotte will also gain some reasons to distrust Impoact.

That plan doesn't fully take into account character development (although Charlotte will likely have little). Nor is there any practical reason to kill Renny, beyond just for the sake of killing Renny. Which is mildly understandable.

Menarker · 06-05-2010, 11:33 AM

There are a few other factors as well aside from that, but no need to mention them at this point, since while I had been planning for some time, they have yet to be revealed. ^^

Also, Renny isn't NOT that stupid about "no need to fortify borders". He is not delusional about the fact that other people aren't like him and there is bound to be a certain level of conflict. A certain degree of peace always came from not tempting people by making yourself look weak.

06-05-2010, 10:10 AM	#17
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Renny wouldn't work with her, but Impact would make it seem like he did. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

06-05-2010, 11:33 AM	#20
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	There are a few other factors as well aside from that, but no need to mention them at this point, since while I had been planning for some time, they have yet to be revealed. ^^ Also, Renny isn't NOT that stupid about "no need to fortify borders". He is not delusional about the fact that other people aren't like him and there is bound to be a certain level of conflict. A certain degree of peace always came from not tempting people by making yourself look weak. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 06-05-2010 at 11:41 AM.

06-05-2010, 02:43 AM	#12
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	What're the real questions? I think I'm retarded right now.

06-05-2010, 07:32 AM	#15
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	We'll see about that. And hey, plot power! That will be fun!

06-05-2010, 10:13 AM	#18
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Well, I see it this way: Impact manipulates Renny to support his empire by quite simply broadcasting a message of peace and love and "We don't want to hurt you at all! No need to fortify your borders!". Propaganda, really, but Renny would believe in it. Impact pretty much makes Charlotte this uber-terrorist, armed with legendaries, attacking the populace of Homnyr. A populace which would be defended by heroic humans. Yeah, inspire pokemon-hatred. Impact tells Charlotte that Renny has lost his value, they need to discredit him. He'd just tell her to visit him, tell him some wacky tale about an Anti-Pokemon conspiracy, and tell him that she's not actually a terrorist, just a rebel, fighting against oppression. Her given reason for finally seeking him out would be that she couldn't risk contacting him before, but their organization just suffered a massive assault from Slayer Battallions, and most of their members have been caught or killed. She needs help. This reason would, to her knowlege, just be an excuse. Mind you, while she's off contacting Renny, Impact's Slayers would actually be anihilating her organization, but she doesn't have to know that. Anyway, she contacts Renny, tells him that Impact's evil, asks for his help. Renny, being Renny, would most likely try to help her. So, they'd arrange to meet, and while at this meeting, they'd be ambushed by Impact's forces. Charlotte would ask Renny to help her fight their way out, Impact would do something to make Renny sufficiently mad to comply (I'm thinking that, if they're within sight of Renny's house, he'd just have his air-force bomb Renny's property). Charlotte would have expected some sort of opposition, but the amount of forces ambushing them would be way larger than she would've expected, since, to her knowlege, she was supposed to get away with Renny. Anyway, then you'd have Renny fighting alongside a known terrorist against police and national guard. Renny=Terrorist. Gets caught, put on trial, gets executed. Charlotte wouldn't even get caught, she'd just die in battle. It's efficient!

06-05-2010, 10:39 AM	#19
Bard The 5th LW Feelin' Super! Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 4,191	Is Renny that gullible? True question, he might gain some experience and competence over the years. I'm sure that Charlotte will also gain some reasons to distrust Impoact. That plan doesn't fully take into account character development (although Charlotte will likely have little). Nor is there any practical reason to kill Renny, beyond just for the sake of killing Renny. Which is mildly understandable.