Pokemon Umbral Discussion 34: all your base...

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Dracorion

Remember that Rachel has no means of generating more Rage since we're using her for healing and Rage generation every turn. So whatever Rage she has to use more items with has to be hoarded like fucking gold.

I think we should save it for the boss we know is coming, and overwhelm that Miyo bitch with enough raw power in Signature Techniques to crack the planet.

Fair enough. I can get behind that. Although Renny would be using Testament Drives since he doesn't have any offensive Sign Techs atm.

But then, alternatively, why shouldn't we just forget about giving a rage rocket to Impact and Pierce (giving both to Moon instead) and give Impact and Pierce the stuff next round when we find out who the foes are?I thought the goal for this turn was to be defensive until we knew which foes were which, and that means shutting down as many foes as possible via guaranteed statuses like flinching. Gem thought it was the way to go too.

Mostly? Because I didn't know about Kangaskhan's crappy Special Attack. Let's have Kangaskhan use Dizzy Punch, then. Confusion is always nice.

Sounds good. STAB is a plus as well.

Eh, I don't see why not. Put it in orange, though.

I did in the last thread. I'll do it again though...

[Astral Harmony]

The actual way they proved this was...well, pretty silly.

Scientist Dude: "So, you're a retired Pokebrid, correct?"
Female Pokebrid: "Yep. Won the lottery."
Scientist Dude: "You became one because you didn't care about bearing children, correct?"
Female Pokebrid: "Yeah, but now that I'm older and have had time to think about it, I feel like I want to settle down. Too late now, I guess."
Scientist Dude: "Let me get to the point. I'll pay you two million dollars to let this Pokebrid guy cum inside you on a dangerous day."
Female Pokebrid: "Sweet deal! I'm glad I decided not to Fire Blast you when you opened the door."
Scientist Dude: "Ah. Thanks."

My strategy guide confirms that Rock has no resistance to Electric attacks. Man, I thought it was that way, too.

[Menarker]

AB:

Can Wilhelmina attack somehow through the fog after Renny's pokemon uses Flying type attacks? I'm asking despite the fact that Wilhelmina said she couldn't aim because...
A: She has to shoot through the fog to attempt to hit a target anyhow. She might as well attempt to hit someone while she is shooting at the "darkness" at the same time using a Flying type move to act as an additional defog.
B: Renny's pokemon would have "defogged" twice before her and thus remove the accuracy barrier as Harriette said.

"Unfortunately, we're screwed for the next phase," Harliette explained. "We can use Defog once to recover from the accuracy decrease the Fog of War brought us, but we won't know what we hit until after we've done our business."

Well, I could've sworn Rock-type was resistant to electric. Mostly because I haven't checked Bulbapedia in a while.

Remind me to punch Gamefreak or whoever makes Pokemon in the fucking balls for making Electric type stupid just to buff Ash's retarded little rat.

That's mainly because in the first generation, all the rock pokemons were dual-typed with ground type which IS immune to electric. The only way you could have found out then that rock was not immune was to use Aerodactyl against someone with an electric pokemon, thinking that rock was immune... only to be hit with a Super Effective attack, (WTF REACTION) like happened to me before. It wasn't until second generation when other pokemons that were rock type but not ground type came out (like Sudowoodo the pure rock type) that the truth was more known.

Of course, the fact that Ash's Pikachu could bolt Geodudes and Onixes and Rhydons at all (AIM FOR THE HORN!) is nothing short of retarded. ^^:


EDIT: On a side note, just want to say that the info that Pokebrids breeding create perfectly normal human children makes me happy. ^^

[Dracorion]

Originally Posted by Menarker

But then, alternatively, why shouldn't we just forget about giving a rage rocket to Impact and Pierce (giving both to Moon instead) and give Impact and Pierce the stuff next round when we find out who the foes are?I thought the goal for this turn was to be defensive until we knew which foes were which, and that means shutting down as many foes as possible via guaranteed statuses like flinching. Gem thought it was the way to go too.

No, what Gem said was:

Defensive plan looks good. If Milsha still had her rage, we could use that to pay, but OH WELL.
Yeah, pay for the people who're worth protecting. Get some water pokemon out. Use a few buffs. Prepare.

Which does not translate to "FLINCH SHIT". And flinch is in no way a guaranteed status. Like, at all.

Look, if we were to use Moonbeam Disco chances are most of the enemies it'd hit would be flinched. BUT, I would rather build up our collective Rage for later, again, so that we can crush Miyo like a stupid bug. I think we can take the hits this turn, all our important players being protected, and the ones that aren't don't aren't squishy little bitches with crappy resistances either.

Originally Posted by Menarker

EDIT: On a side note, just want to say that the info that Pokebrids breeding create perfectly normal human children makes me happy. ^^

Pffft. That's only for PokebridxPokebrid.

For all you know, if Renny and Lola were to have a kid it'd be some bastard mutant thing.

[Bard The 5th LW]

It makes me happen to.

But the breeding itself has potential to be far from natural.

VERY FAR!

REMOVE THESE THOUGHTS FROM MY HEAD!


Edit: There, an avatar to express my actions.

[Astral Harmony]

I'll allow Wilhelmina to take a shot, but chances are that it won't do a lot of good.

Y'see, Defog uses up the whole phase. Logically, a creature, even one with huge wings, probably wouldn't be able to blow away fog in the same amount of time as another creature would bring down a bolt of lightning.

Plus, it's a lot easier to see and attack something up close than it is from much farther away, even if the far off ally had a sniper scope.

As for Renny and Lola possibly having a mutant baby, that brings up this interesting point...

Renny: "C'mon, honey, he's almost out! One final push!"
Lola: *screams during the final push*
Doctor: "Congratulations, Mr and Mrs Tresserhorn, it's a...Shuckle?"
Baby Shuckle: "Shuckle!"
Renny: *looks at Mollesk* "You sonuva-!"
Lola: "Baby, I'm so sorry! I thought it was you that night! The lighting was really dark and I thought you were using Viagra-!"

[Menarker]

I was talking about the sureness of them being unable to act. Flinch is a sure status compared to ones like paralysis. Sleep is also fairly sure for one turn as well, but those are rarer to find with decent accuracy.

Anyhow, I'll roll with it. BUT I still think that Shannon should not be the one paying rage. If we need to use Disco Dance later (Miyo is likely to come with minions and it's best to alternate between Pierce's Love-Tech and Moonlight Disco if we can), we don't want to have to be spending 3 rage rockets or several turns to do it. Harriette gains double rage, so she'll be ok paying for Matthias.

Rachel: Rage Rockets on Pierce and Impact.
Renny: Togekiss and Shaymin use Amplified Air Slash on target A and B. Defog effect. 60% and 70% chance of flinching respectively (Shaymin has flinch boosting item). Renny uses Serene Blessing. Renny pays 70 RPs to protect Togekiss and Shaymin. Harliette pays 70 RPs to protect herself and Matthias, Cecilia pays 35 RPs to protect Impact.
Wilhelmina: Piercing Shot on target C. Also pierces the fog in the process that's shielding the foes from our sight.
Moon: Lanturn to use Amplified STAB Discharge on C & D (backlash to hit Aria), Kingdra to use Amplified STAB Hydro Pump on D.
Charlotte: Buck to use Amplified STAB Fire Blast on D, Pike to use Amplified Thunder on D.
Harliette: Nidoqueen to use STAB Earthquake on slots C & D (backlash to hit Shaymin), Kangaskhan to use STAB Dizzy Punch on C. Harliette to use HV Shot on C.
Matthias: Amplified Psychic on C.
Pierce: Palkia to use Amplified STAB Spacial Rend on D, Aria to use Amplified STAB Thunder on C.
Impact: STAB HV Rifle on D.
Trainer Attacks: Pierce target C, Charlotte target C.

Formation:

[Matthias] [Buck] [Pike] [Bastiodon] [Kangaskhan] [Harliette] [Nidoqueen] [Shaymin] [Togekiss] [Palkia] [Aria] [Lanturn] [Kingdra] [Impact] [Special Attack Amplifier]

(Note that Renny gains equal rage when Pierce or Harliette get rage from injuries due to Togekiss being on the field with the appropriate item.)

Also, noticed that you had Earthquake as "amplified" when it is a physical attack, not special. The closest to Earthquake in power that is special is Earth Power.

EDIT: 0.o *Just saw AB's post...* God damnit, Mollesk!

Renny has "Magikarp Power" to put it eloquently.

[Dracorion]

I'm okay with that plan.

Also, yeah, whatever about Earthquake.

[Geminex]

Though you guys remember the fact that there's a flood coming? And therefor anything on the ground will prooobably take quite a bit of water damage?
Buck will be taking super-effective damage. As will nidoqueen. You're aware of this?

I said I'd sit this round out, and I shall, so that'll be all you hear from me. Though two things:
First, you really don't seem to be using many buffs. Might've been worth it to do so, but allright.
Secondly, this:

(Note that Renny gains equal rage when Pierce or Harliette get rage from injuries due to Togekiss being on the field with the appropriate item.)

What? Seriously, what? Your item does not do that. And if it does, nerf that shit.
All that your item does (if I remember correctly) is give togekiss extra rage for damage taken by its immediate neighbors, not Renny's neighbors. Meaning, in this case, Shaymin and Palkia. Which is still plenty powerful, mind you. It's just not excessive like you seem to be wanting it to be.

[Astral Harmony]

I'd wouldn't hurt them with the waters pouring out of the broken fountain. If I intended to, I would've mentioned it along with the lightning splash aspect. The water will barely be at ancle level. But that's some very thorough thinking there, Gem.

If nothing comes up tomorrow, I'll have the post done that afternoon.