Real Westerns - Page 2

The Sevenshot Kid · 08-31-2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Magus

Dunno, it had an attempted lynching scene, Indians, and a nefarious villain, I think it was an ode to earlier westerns but probably just because it was comedic and not serious. By those standards Wagons East and Almost Hereos are also great westerns!

Couldn't decide between "don't you ever say that again" and "shut your filthy whore's mouth" so I guess you get both now.

Magus · 08-31-2010, 10:17 PM

I hope you aren't going to hate on my love of "Blazing Saddles", "Support Your Local Sheriff/Gunfighter", etc. as well.

Anyway, I'd like to interject the following: the only good John Wayne western is The Shootist, because frankly I can't stand the guy in most of his movies.

The Sevenshot Kid · 08-31-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Magus

I hope you aren't going to hate on my love of "Blazing Saddles", "Support Your Local Sheriff/Gunfighter", etc. as well.

Anyway, I'd like to interject the following: the only good John Wayne western is The Shootist, because frankly I can't stand the guy in most of his movies.

Those are comedies with a Western setting. Also awesome.

And John Wayne isn't for everyone but lord know's I love his movies in spite of their flaws.

DarkDrgon · 09-01-2010, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Magus

Anyway, I'd like to interject the following: the only good John Wayne western is The Shootist, because frankly I can't stand the guy in most of his movies.

I love the guy, and love that I can get 40 of his movies for 25 bucks.

Yumil · 09-01-2010, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Magus

I saw "Sukiyaki Western Django" as more of a steampunkish sci-fi than an actual Western, like a live-action anime with Western elements, what with the one villain using a katana and a gun, having piercings, etc. The anachronism of Japanese actors using old-west pistols just kind of made it seem like it was in some kind of post-apocalyptic setting or something.

Well, he was trying to "prequel" Django. The thing is, it was a weird choice making the cast speak English. I can understand it with the setting and all(Nevada), but the original Django was Italian and the actors didn't speak any English(in fact, the dub is god awful...in fact that may be why he made them speak english...lol, I never thought about that). There are a lot of throwbacks to it, like the Gatling gun in the coffin and what not>.<

I will say this, it is much like a spaghetti western(what Django was) in that it was more focused on the action. However, it's still a lot like the old bandit vs townspeople and a gunman movies of the days. It's definitely Takashi Miike, but I wouldn't say it doesn't do the genre proud.

Anachronisms aren't too out of place in Westerns, so the swords don't really bother me.

Magus · 09-02-2010, 01:16 AM

But there are ways to do it without cheating and making it sci-fi, like Red Sun with Toshiro Mifune and Charles Bronson, that was a good one, or something horrible like, Shanghai Noon (can anyone explain to me why Shanghai Knights was made? Neither cowboys nor kung-fu masters have shit-all to do with Great Britain, and the pun is more of a pun on the first movie's title than an actual title, since the first is like "Shang-High Noon" whereas the second is like "Shanghai Now it's Night Time instead of Noon but like it's Knight because it's in Great Britain").

Premmy · 09-02-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Magus

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Shanghai Noon (can anyone explain to me why Shanghai Knights was made? Neither cowboys nor kung-fu masters have shit-all to do with Great Britain, and the pun is more of a pun on the first movie's title than an actual title, since the first is like "Shang-High Noon" whereas the second is like "Shanghai Now it's Night Time instead of Noon but like it's Knight because it's in Great Britain").

That's called a Two-part pun, and it's First-rate

Magus · 09-02-2010, 01:54 AM

Except the High part of Shanghai now has nothing to do with it, leaving Shanghai as simply a reference to Jackie Chan, whereas Owen Wilson now has nothing to do with the title because it's no longer cowboy themed. And he's a cowboy in Britain fighting with a martial artist to stop a noble killing the queen of England. The concept makes no sense! It's just crazy!

08-31-2010, 10:17 PM	#12
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	I hope you aren't going to hate on my love of "Blazing Saddles", "Support Your Local Sheriff/Gunfighter", etc. as well. Anyway, I'd like to interject the following: the only good John Wayne western is The Shootist, because frankly I can't stand the guy in most of his movies.

09-02-2010, 01:16 AM	#16
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	But there are ways to do it without cheating and making it sci-fi, like Red Sun with Toshiro Mifune and Charles Bronson, that was a good one, or something horrible like, Shanghai Noon (can anyone explain to me why Shanghai Knights was made? Neither cowboys nor kung-fu masters have shit-all to do with Great Britain, and the pun is more of a pun on the first movie's title than an actual title, since the first is like "Shang-High Noon" whereas the second is like "Shanghai Now it's Night Time instead of Noon but like it's Knight because it's in Great Britain").

09-02-2010, 01:54 AM	#18
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Except the High part of Shanghai now has nothing to do with it, leaving Shanghai as simply a reference to Jackie Chan, whereas Owen Wilson now has nothing to do with the title because it's no longer cowboy themed. And he's a cowboy in Britain fighting with a martial artist to stop a noble killing the queen of England. The concept makes no sense! It's just crazy!