Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura - Page 2

Magus · 10-14-2010, 12:47 PM

I've only tried it on XP, but the site says it's good for Windows Vista too...I'd recommend contacting the GOG people to see if it's compatible with Windows 7.

They'll probably be making their games library compatible with Windows 7 eventually in order to keep selling them.

bluestarultor · 10-14-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Magus

I've only tried it on XP, but the site says it's good for Windows Vista too...I'd recommend contacting the GOG people to see if it's compatible with Windows 7.

They'll probably be making their games library compatible with Windows 7 eventually in order to keep selling them.

That's... not how it works, man. XD

I seriously doubt they're modifying any of the code for compatibility purposes. Mostly because it would be a major bitch to do for every game and legally questionable unless they got permission from the makers. It's just that many old games, even some old Windows 3.1 and DOS games, are at least partly Windows compatible.

For Win7, there's always XP compatibility if it doesn't work natively. That was supposed to be a big feature and I have yet to hear outrage over it, so I assume it works well enough.

PyrosNine · 10-14-2010, 02:58 PM

GoG does however compile help on how to run it's games in Windows 7, with downloadable patches and links to other places that have fixes. Otherwise they would never have been as successful.

h4x.m4g3 · 10-14-2010, 09:18 PM

It works on Windows 7, at least the actual disc does, I don't know how the GoG version will run.

I got into this about a month ago and developed an instant love-hate relationship with the game after finding it while perusing my friend's collection of old PC games. I love the game because of its humor, seemingly amazing amount of customization and options in quest/dialogs and hate many of the more obtuse parts that have my scowering the internet for guides and renditions of the instruction manual. For example I didn't know the game could do turn-based combat until almost a week (and several dozen character deaths) of playing, had problems figuring out where/how to get the map to change back to world map so you could travel to new areas, etc. I still dread any enemy who focuses on reducing stamina because then the game devolves into 'oh they knocked me down and proceeded to wail on me while I was helpless on the floor until I died'.

But yeah despite this the game is really fun, if for nothing more then the variety of dialogues and reactions.

greed · 10-15-2010, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by h4x.m4g3

But yeah despite this the game is really fun, if for nothing more then the variety of dialogues and reactions.

I'm having Alpha Protocol flashbacks. Still been looking for this ever since I rea an LP of it and hadn't considered GoG. Also Temple of Elemental Evil. Might have to grab them sometime when I need a game.

Magus · 10-15-2010, 10:41 AM

Yeah, the "real time" battles were forced upon the creators by some executives at the company doing the publishing (if I remember what I read on the internets correctly). It's basically impossible to play with and removes basically any options of retreat, tactical movement, pickpocketing while in battle, etc. from the fighting. It should be changed to "turn-based" or "fast turn-based" in the options ASAP.

Yeah, I want to get some other Troika games like the Temple of Elemental Evil as well. These ones should keep me busy a while. Vampire: The Masquerade -- Bloodlines is supposed to be pretty cool too (unfortunately GoG only has some unrelated Vampire: The Masquerade game that is supposed to be not very good in comparison to Bloodlines).

greed · 10-15-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Magus

Yeah, the "real time" battles were forced upon the creators by some executives at the company doing the publishing (if I remember what I read on the internets correctly). It's basically impossible to play with and removes basically any options of retreat, tactical movement, pickpocketing while in battle, etc. from the fighting. It should be changed to "turn-based" or "fast turn-based" in the options ASAP.

Yeah, I want to get some other Troika games like the Temple of Elemental Evil as well. These ones should keep me busy a while. Vampire: The Masquerade -- Bloodlines is supposed to be pretty cool too (unfortunately GoG only has some unrelated Vampire: The Masquerade game that is supposed to be not very good in comparison to Bloodlines).

Steam has Bloodlines, I got it a while back. Totally worth it, just as with all Troika games, patch it fast.

Magus · 10-17-2010, 11:58 AM

I would just like to say that I did the research on the GOG version at their forums and it is already prepatched to the latest official version. So applying a downloaded version of the official patch to it might actually mess it up.

There is however an unofficial patch worked on by a guy named Drog Black Tooth that "fixes" a LOT of stuff in the game the official patch didn't bother with I was going to give a whirl after I finished the game once (since the saves aren't compatible between versions). Some of the fixes seem like glaring oversights frankly (for example the hushed revolver in the official version is not actually hushed or silenced due to an oversight on the part of the creators, thus making it quite useless), while some are sort of questionable so I was going to wait to try it out until I play through it once with the official version.

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Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	I've only tried it on XP, but the site says it's good for Windows Vista too...I'd recommend contacting the GOG people to see if it's compatible with Windows 7. They'll probably be making their games library compatible with Windows 7 eventually in order to keep selling them. __________________ The Valiant Review

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PyrosNine Zettai Hero Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A figment of my own imagination Posts: 6,103	GoG does however compile help on how to run it's games in Windows 7, with downloadable patches and links to other places that have fixes. Otherwise they would never have been as successful. __________________ Pyrosnine.blogspot.com: An experimental blog of writing. Updated possibly daily. Possibly. A fair chance. Current Works for reading: War Between them, Karma Police. PyrosNine: Weirdo Magnet Extraordinaire!

10-15-2010, 10:41 AM	#16
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Yeah, the "real time" battles were forced upon the creators by some executives at the company doing the publishing (if I remember what I read on the internets correctly). It's basically impossible to play with and removes basically any options of retreat, tactical movement, pickpocketing while in battle, etc. from the fighting. It should be changed to "turn-based" or "fast turn-based" in the options ASAP. Yeah, I want to get some other Troika games like the Temple of Elemental Evil as well. These ones should keep me busy a while. Vampire: The Masquerade -- Bloodlines is supposed to be pretty cool too (unfortunately GoG only has some unrelated Vampire: The Masquerade game that is supposed to be not very good in comparison to Bloodlines). __________________ The Valiant Review

10-17-2010, 11:58 AM	#18
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	I would just like to say that I did the research on the GOG version at their forums and it is already prepatched to the latest official version. So applying a downloaded version of the official patch to it might actually mess it up. There is however an unofficial patch worked on by a guy named Drog Black Tooth that "fixes" a LOT of stuff in the game the official patch didn't bother with I was going to give a whirl after I finished the game once (since the saves aren't compatible between versions). Some of the fixes seem like glaring oversights frankly (for example the hushed revolver in the official version is not actually hushed or silenced due to an oversight on the part of the creators, thus making it quite useless), while some are sort of questionable so I was going to wait to try it out until I play through it once with the official version. __________________ The Valiant Review

10-14-2010, 09:18 PM	#14
h4x.m4g3 Lakitu Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,152	It works on Windows 7, at least the actual disc does, I don't know how the GoG version will run. I got into this about a month ago and developed an instant love-hate relationship with the game after finding it while perusing my friend's collection of old PC games. I love the game because of its humor, seemingly amazing amount of customization and options in quest/dialogs and hate many of the more obtuse parts that have my scowering the internet for guides and renditions of the instruction manual. For example I didn't know the game could do turn-based combat until almost a week (and several dozen character deaths) of playing, had problems figuring out where/how to get the map to change back to world map so you could travel to new areas, etc. I still dread any enemy who focuses on reducing stamina because then the game devolves into 'oh they knocked me down and proceeded to wail on me while I was helpless on the floor until I died'. But yeah despite this the game is really fun, if for nothing more then the variety of dialogues and reactions.