Republicans Still Fucking Hate Women

[CABAL49]

And let's not forget that the ship is run by rich twats who fund this shit all over the world.

[The SSB Intern]

Hey guys, let's be fair. It's not just the Congressional Republicans who are fucking things over. The news networks are happy to help as well.

[Bum Bill Bee]

Y'know Cabal I can't help but laugh at people who think that "rich people are 100% Republican all the time". President Obama didn't get elected twice by having poor backers. Between the average rich and poor person who's more likely to be openly gay, support all the paperlessstuff, explore exotic religions and philosophies, Know about various world problemsand be able to do anything significant about them? And then the two states that are most heavily associated with diversity and liberalism- NewYork and California- have the highest real estate and are by far the most heavily represented in pop culture. Of course this is just another thing that makes Republicans look dumb, why keep doing things that only benefit the rich if roughly half the rich voted against you? Mind you, I voted Obama mainly as a matter of "lesser of two evils".

Now I must really disagree with Stefan's commnets about the Entertainment industry. Ellen Ripley couldn't be invented in the 2000's? Regardless of how many high priofile pussyfication stuff thats produced I can still find tons of tough independant female characters. Surely couldn't all the Tophs, Ziva Davids, Konos, Emma swans, Agatha Heterodynes, Nico Minorus and Emily the Stranges outweigh the few overstated Bella Cullens types out there? Plus there's all the recent fairy tail/fantasy stuff where a kickass princess is having to save some dumb inmeffectual man-bitch prince like in Mirror, Once Upon A Time,Enchanted, and to a lesser extent Shrek 3. Anyway, I can't really understand people who treat Ripely as some femminist god-heroine. Her ass-shot near the end of the first movie irritated me to no end, and I know there's femminists who hated it too. And then in the sequel a more tomboyish character was killed off.

Now part of the reason the Cosby show might not take off in 2000s as it did in the 70s is because in 2000s time Brown is the new Black. It would be far more ground breaking and relevant to have a show about a Hispanic upper-middle class family, and that's already been done with the Solis on Desperate Housewives, not to mention the hordes of Telenovelas that have growing popularity in the US. Besides, wasn't Tyler Perry just named the highest paid man in entertainment? Isn't Oprah still one of the richest most influential women of all time?

What I'm more concerened about are all the recent implications that African Americans are better/more important than other minorities. In an early casting call for Runaways had specified a black actor for Alex Wilder while it didn't specify an asian one for Nico. The "bald black leader man" trope BY FAR outnumbers all other non-white male leader characters. You can find all black versions of a dozen Broadway shows, but no such luck with other groups. A bunch of blacks protested Chinese man Lei Yixin being the sculptor of the Martin Luther King Memorial, because apparently "only black people can reverantly appreciate the messages and legacy of MLK". Then there's the Travon Martin case getting tons more attention than the 14 Sikh killed in Wisconson, or maybe thats just an instance of "an individual=tragedy, a quantity= statistic", which is not an improvement.

Also noteworthy is the massive gap in black sexuality. I mean we see tons of black men in both real life and fiction marrying/loving white women but FAR fewer white men marrying/loving black women. I find this ecspecially concerning with all the Beyonce/Whitney Houston types conforming to white standards of beauty. Another object of concern are the "lighter balcks are smarter than darker blacks" implications in Resident Evil 5 and Boondocks. Heck, why do we even persist in calling Africans black? Somehow seems backwards since few Africans are anywhere near the actual color.

With the whole race thing I'm just all out disillusioned. When growing up I was led to believe that we honkies had to fix are act as a matter of keeping up with the other races being smarter, tolerant, accepting and never polluted the environment. Imagine all the raging confusion I felt when I learned of all the racism, mysogeny and environment destruction done in the other countries. Or how absolutely pissed I feel at minorities bashing other minorities. Along with the aforementioned black supremacy stuff, there's Mexican (and other) immigrants being homophobic. Or how anti-Semitism is more common innon white Americans than white ones. And heck sometimes being a minority dosen't prevent one from being a massive douche. Coptic Christians are not the majority in Egypt but that didn't stop Nakoula Basseley Nakoula from making Innocence of Muslims. Muslims are not the majority in India but that didn't stop some of them from doing Love Jihads. I'd be alright with minorities attacking whites in America, we had it coming, but nothing's prepared me for all the weirdness I've gone over.

Now in terms of fiction/Entertainment industry Liberal types complain about some weird ass things, and often just seem to hurt their own causes. Like why is a character speaking with an accent considered racist? Isn't it far more racist to suggest that everyone speaks in perfect unaccented King's english all the time? Or how is changing a character's skin color ever a suitable counter to racial stereotypes? Or what about the MASSIVE lack of non-whites in areas of likeable kickass villains, antiheroes, disabled people, clowns, or goth/emo people? I see it as some Liberal writers are too afraid to show minorities as anything beyond clean sparkling perfect goody goodies who are overly competant. Tropes like "White gang bangers" seem to support this theory. Or with more serious real life stuff there's the apparent idea that "genocide only counts when white people do it". Why else would the South Africa apartheid and Italian invasion of Ethiopia (whites attacking blacks) initially get more attention than Rwawanda (blacks attacking blacks). Or how about the fact that in Germany you can go to jail for Holocaust denial while in Japan there's political parties that get to deny the magnitude or even existance of the Nanking Massacre? Was the Holocaust all that much worse than Nanking or what?

Look, I wasn't trying to troll anyone, I just wanted to get off my chest some things that were banging around in my head for a long time, I'd be happy to hear any responses you'd have, I won't drive myself deeper into a shit storm by posting here again. On a more relevant note yes, I agree this seems monsterously dumb and backwards for the Republicans to do. I just don't agree that we're all the backward in the ways others have said.

[CABAL49]

I never said all rich people are Republicans. A more apt statement would be 98% of problems can be blamed on the rich or those with wealth. But yeah, most Liberals tend to be hypocritical and at their best, keyboard activists. Considering how much money is invested into things like preventing gay people from getting married, and the interest groups set up to represent the rich to influence public and domestic policy. It makes sense for them to fund Democrats who are fairly right winged but have more credibility than Republicans and and snatch the liberal vote. Neo-conservatism continues to be on the rise. Even the big socialists in Europe are finding more and more assets privatized. In Germany they are talking about privatizing their healthcare. Not to mention other laws that are being set up around fucking the more like their welfare reforms.

But I can only comment on my own statements. Your rant isn't exactly clear when it is talking about Liberal writers. If it is things like making Heimdall black, well that is silly. Thor and whatnot are people based off Norse myths but are hardly those people. Heimdall is a shape shifter, so no real reason why he can't be black. I find it funny cause I don't really hear about people complaining about how Nick Fury became black. But I can't bring myself to care about that either, alternate universe or whatever. But that is the thing here is that when writers change the race of a character, it often is subjective in terms of how people receive it. I have never heard anyone complain about how Red from Shawshank Redemption was originally a white guy, hence the name Red.

Also Germany and Japan worked out differently, not saying either way was good but different. When the US first occupied Japan, the US did start putting war criminals and the such on trial. But Japan surrendered after Germany and we were at the cusp of the start of the Cold War. The US decided it was better to keep the fascists in power, because the only other power in Japan at the time were the communists of which the US thought would be too friendly to the Soviets. The US kept a lot of Nazis in power in Germany as well, but not to the same extent. The US let a lot of war criminals go in Japan so that they could ensure the loyalty of the fascists. Also, Germany was occupied by France, UK and USSR at the same time. And white people didn't die in Nanjing.

But talking about how other groups of people discriminate is kind of a moot point. Just because everyone else is racist, doesn't mean you should be.

[Osterbaum]

Y'know Cabal I can't help but laugh at people who think that "rich people are 100% Republican all the time".

Doesn't matter if they're Republican or Democrat, both suck and rich people are still way more likely to support policies that make them richer andfuck over everyone else.

President Obama didn't get elected twice by having poor backers.

Yeah but he is a liberal fuck, it's not surprising a few rich liberals would support him and the democrats.

For the rest of your post I don't even know where to start.

[pochercoaster]

Originally Posted by Bum Bill Bee

With the whole race thing I'm just all out disillusioned. When growing up I was led to believe that we honkies had to fix are act as a matter of keeping up with the other races being smarter, tolerant, accepting and never polluted the environment. Imagine all the raging confusion I felt when I learned of all the racism, mysogeny and environment destruction done in the other countries. Or how absolutely pissed I feel at minorities bashing other minorities. Along with the aforementioned black supremacy stuff, there's Mexican (and other) immigrants being homophobic. Or how anti-Semitism is more common innon white Americans than white ones. And heck sometimes being a minority dosen't prevent one from being a massive douche. Coptic Christians are not the majority in Egypt but that didn't stop Nakoula Basseley Nakoula from making Innocence of Muslims. Muslims are not the majority in India but that didn't stop some of them from doing Love Jihads. I'd be alright with minorities attacking whites in America, we had it coming, but nothing's prepared me for all the weirdness I've gone over.

This whole paragraph reads like you just realized that minorities are human and therefore capable of being sexist/homophobic/etc. like everyone else, which is kind of disturbing. Of course being a minority doesn't prevent you from being a douche, but that's not the point. O_O

[Premmy]

Originally Posted by Bum Bill Bee

Actually complete bullshit

I was going to yell at everyone in the Zero Dark Thirty thread for dissing Amazing Spider-man but reading this has struck me blind. good job

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I'm sick of these one post trollers- the true genius trolls of the golden age would take craft and effort, would craft a character with subtle hints laced throughout- would become so much their character that it was unclear why they stopped and the character started. The whole thing would be directed by Satoshi Kon and at first you would get only odd hints of something wrong- a strange glance in a mirror, maybe a delusion on the subway- before it slowly built up and then in their glorious masterstroke the whole edifice of reality is torn asunder and they stride asunder on your open jaws, laughing at your false god of rationality.
Or we can just can come in and post barely coherent rants I guess.

[Kim]

I blame Twitter.

I can sort of sympathize with his thing about being disappointed when he found out minorities weren't perfect, but from the completely different perspective of being a member of those groups and seeing how shitty they were, which dismantled the idealized image of how I saw groups I was previously unable to participate in.

First example would be seeing homophobia in gay groups when I identified as a gay man.

Second example is seeing shitty gatekeeping in the trans community now.

It sucks to find out groups you had once idealized are full of shitty people, because the world is full of shitty people in all areas. That said, shitty people in positions of privilege are generally worse because they have power backing up their shittiness.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

I don't understand why anyone would idealise any minority groups though. That doesn't make sense to me.