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tacticslion · 12-12-2015, 11:45 PM

Dang it.

Well, Up is amazing. So is Wall-E. And The Incredibles. Cars (much better than most people credit, though it's not "the best"?). Inside Out. The three Toy Story films.

Monsters, Inc. was a really good film that was pleasant, if a tad on the trite side in its ending (but in a good way). Finding Nemo is a phenomenal film that I appreciate as a father in ways that both delight and horrify me (like American Tail does these days).

Cars 2 is actually... really great. I get why it gets flak, but it's a solid film. Brave was great, but it suffered from tonal issues: mostly the trailers sold me a different genre than I ended up seeing, making it less awesome than it deserves. Rattatoui (sorry for the spelling, I'm on a phone that hates every variant) is a shockingly mature film, dealing with family issues, social acceptance, romance, internal politics, children from wedlock, morality, and death, pretty bluntly.

Monsters U. was a pretty fun romp.

The Good Dinosaur had some amaaaaaaazing visuals, solid music, and a powerfully empathetic and understandably flawed father figure... but it felt disoriented and unsure of its final direction or reasoning; and I'd literally seen the whole movie before, more than once (except for those T-Rexes; those surprised me in a good way). A Bug's Life was a fine film, but too "tidy" and trite to be as much of a classic as others, despite my enjoyment.

As I'm going from memory, those are the film's I can recall while sick at present, and the "tiers" of films I'd put them in, rather than exact order. (Though Nemo should probably be one higher - it's just a pain to edit on this phone).

I will say this: I am in love with Up (and my son) to have watched it dozens of times, intimately know many of its mistakes and failures (and there are quite a few) and still rank it among the top films in the bunch. It is a powerful and excellent film that understands people. The love story is perfect, and, frankly, I look up to Carl in many ways - I am unsure if I'd have the fortitude or will to live beyond my wife, even if our relative genetics allowed for it. Also, Up (and Cars) is one of my go-to examples when I show people that Pixar films are not "children" films, but are instead "child-friendly-disguised, but fully adult films" - because daaaaaaaagggyyuuuuuuuuuuum.

Aerozord · 12-13-2015, 12:17 AM

Most of what people consider the best I haven't seen. Pixar movies are actually really hard to come by post release because Disney just loves their false scarcity marketing.

But out of those I've seen... probably Wall-E. I just love its approach to the robot apocalypse just being, they do their job so well we just get really lazy and cant be bothered to think for ourselves anymore. Which is probably the most realistic version of the idea.

Incredibles would probably be the best... if I ever saw the entire movie. I just caught parts of it on TV so I cant fairly judge it.

Bum Bill Bee · 12-14-2015, 06:16 AM

Finding Nemo, because of the color, music and emotional depth.

mauve · 12-14-2015, 11:37 AM

Nemo is also an acceptable choice.

I can admit Wall-E w as a good Pixar film, even though I personally didn't care much for it. It took a lot of guts for Pixar to make a kid's movie with that kind of message about society, especially with Disney watching over their shoulder. Animation was beautiful, to boot. I just personally didn't care for it as much as the others. I found it too depressing.

12-12-2015, 11:45 PM	#11
tacticslion Regulator Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,842	Well, Mauve, you started out strong... Dang it. Well, Up is amazing. So is Wall-E. And The Incredibles. Cars (much better than most people credit, though it's not "the best"?). Inside Out. The three Toy Story films. Monsters, Inc. was a really good film that was pleasant, if a tad on the trite side in its ending (but in a good way). Finding Nemo is a phenomenal film that I appreciate as a father in ways that both delight and horrify me (like American Tail does these days). Cars 2 is actually... really great. I get why it gets flak, but it's a solid film. Brave was great, but it suffered from tonal issues: mostly the trailers sold me a different genre than I ended up seeing, making it less awesome than it deserves. Rattatoui (sorry for the spelling, I'm on a phone that hates every variant) is a shockingly mature film, dealing with family issues, social acceptance, romance, internal politics, children from wedlock, morality, and death, pretty bluntly. Monsters U. was a pretty fun romp. The Good Dinosaur had some amaaaaaaazing visuals, solid music, and a powerfully empathetic and understandably flawed father figure... but it felt disoriented and unsure of its final direction or reasoning; and I'd literally seen the whole movie before, more than once (except for those T-Rexes; those surprised me in a good way). A Bug's Life was a fine film, but too "tidy" and trite to be as much of a classic as others, despite my enjoyment. As I'm going from memory, those are the film's I can recall while sick at present, and the "tiers" of films I'd put them in, rather than exact order. (Though Nemo should probably be one higher - it's just a pain to edit on this phone). I will say this: I am in love with Up (and my son) to have watched it dozens of times, intimately know many of its mistakes and failures (and there are quite a few) and still rank it among the top films in the bunch. It is a powerful and excellent film that understands people. The love story is perfect, and, frankly, I look up to Carl in many ways - I am unsure if I'd have the fortitude or will to live beyond my wife, even if our relative genetics allowed for it. Also, Up (and Cars) is one of my go-to examples when I show people that Pixar films are not "children" films, but are instead "child-friendly-disguised, but fully adult films" - because daaaaaaaagggyyuuuuuuuuuuum. __________________ Make the best decision ever. I look forward to seeing you there! You should watch this trailer! It's awesome! (The rest of the site's really cool, too!) I have a small announcement to make. And another!

12-13-2015, 12:17 AM	#12
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	Most of what people consider the best I haven't seen. Pixar movies are actually really hard to come by post release because Disney just loves their false scarcity marketing. But out of those I've seen... probably Wall-E. I just love its approach to the robot apocalypse just being, they do their job so well we just get really lazy and cant be bothered to think for ourselves anymore. Which is probably the most realistic version of the idea. Incredibles would probably be the best... if I ever saw the entire movie. I just caught parts of it on TV so I cant fairly judge it. __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

12-14-2015, 06:16 AM	#13
Bum Bill Bee Boo Buddy Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 454	Finding Nemo, because of the color, music and emotional depth. __________________ Dis Dude's Deviantart

12-14-2015, 11:37 AM	#14
mauve So Dreamy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Someplace magical Posts: 6,863	Nemo is also an acceptable choice. I can admit Wall-E w as a good Pixar film, even though I personally didn't care much for it. It took a lot of guts for Pixar to make a kid's movie with that kind of message about society, especially with Disney watching over their shoulder. Animation was beautiful, to boot. I just personally didn't care for it as much as the others. I found it too depressing. __________________ Yoo Hoo!