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Unread 07-30-2004, 11:24 PM   #11
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FF1 Whats the best party to make? For both late and early game?
Fighter, Fighter, Fighter, Fighter.

Anybody who says otherwise is a fool.
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Unread 07-30-2004, 11:26 PM   #12
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This information is going to suck, but the best FF1 party is F/F/F/RM.
The only thing it lacks is instant kills spells (Which only work about 5% of the time and aren't necessary), Life 2, and Nuke. Pure mages are really pretty unimportant in the grand scheme of the game. They're simply more fun to play with.
It isn't the most fun party. The party that most effectively utilizes all the aspects, benefits, weapons etc. in the game is F/T/WM/BM.
Note: Thief is better for a "best" party because he uses unique weaponsand armors (Especially after class change) and has the run capability. The black belt is super powerful and has poor defense and whatever... basically, it's a very bland character and the lack of weapon use and variety for gameplay value detracts from it's overall usefulness, IMO. Especially when Fighters exist.

As for FF6 (3 US)
Teach somebody both Ultima and Quick. Give them an Economizer and the Gem Box. Once that character gets a turn, they can kill Kefka alone because Quick and Ultima can be used repeatedly with the Gem Box allowing an infinite number of turns doind 9999 damage a piece. Of course, the Economizer is necessary to make the constant Ultima use possible.
Due to the nature of Ultima, you could make that member Cyan if you want to. (I believe that he is the least magically powerful of them all). So that's the absolute easiest way to win and, therefore, the best party. A single one. Otherwise, FF6 has so many characters and personalities and strategies and ways to make characters more ultimate than others that it's practically impossible to give a subjective and non-biased answer.


Edit: Kirby, you can't put down the value of that single RM. I mean, sometimes it really is better to have a shot of Fir2 or Cur2 instead of just another attack. Or Ice3 and Life, if you like. Besides, the RM can hold his own plenty with his Silver Sword or his Sun Sword or his Defense to make him a plenty good fighter. And then the magic makes him much more valuable an asset than just another Sword Swinger. (Besides, there aren't enough Uber swords in the game (Unless you count the Masmune) to satisfy the strength of a fourth Fighter. May as well be a RW carrying the Bane Sword instead of a Fighter. Heck.)
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Unread 07-31-2004, 03:49 AM   #13
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This is going to take a while.

FF1: I found that party setup isn't as important as proper use of the the special items. I made sure I never got rid of the two heal helms, nor the special staffs, or the shirts.

Trust me. A lot of party weaknesses can be made up with those. None can cast Nuke or Holy. But a few rounds of Mage staff, Thor's hammer, Black shirt, and Light axe against undead, will send almost all enemy parties to the void.

And if you need to heal, just fight a party will a weak enemy. Then defeat all the others. Then you can spen the next several rounds using the heal helms and the heal staff. And use the white shirt to deflect as many of the attacks from the surviving enemy as possible so that it can't slow down your healing.

I've played with quite a few party combinations. And this helped all of them.

FF6: Also, i don't think the part matters. Just make sure everyone knows Ultima. In fact, you can have everyone( except Gogo and Umaro) learn every spell. Just go to the dinosaur forest. Make sure your party is at least level 50. The best way to make sure of that is to have Celes be that high on the Floating continent. And don't forget that you can steal Genji gloves from the Dragon there. You usually get potions, but with enough patience, you'll have more than enough for a whole party. That will also help with the dinosaur forest.

That area has several benefits. First, you get more XP than almost any other part of the game. Second, the Tyranosaurs drop Imp spears. You can trade them in the coloseum (albiet it takes a few trades) for an XP egg. So your characters could be at level 70+ by the time all the characters (that can learn magic) learn Ultima, 80+ if you want all magic spells.

But beware of the Brachiosaur. It knows Ultima and Sneeze. Before you go, make sure at least one charcter per party (If you want to level up all characters) knows Vanish and another knows X-zone. Use the former on the dinosaur, then the later. It's the only way to guarantee it won't sneeze before it dies. But it's worth it because of the third benefit of the dinosaur forest. The Brachiosaur sometimes drops an econimizer. And trust me, if you level up all 14 characters to 99, the odds are good that you will have at least 10 econimizers. And that's using the XP eggs!

So once you've built up your party to how you want it, just choose any 4+ characters (except Umaro, who can't use magic) and blast away with Ultima. Even without econimizers, the three-level statue will fall quickly. But having a character with Offering and Atma Weapon (Ultima Weapon?) will help against Kefka.

FF7: Once again, the party doesn't matter. Just give everyone a mime materia. And have at least one KOTRound (Can't confuse that with "Knights of the Old Republic", can we?) up to level three. If you have enough patience, try at least 2 mastered ones. (Don't ask what I did. I had a lot of free time.) So then blast away at Sephiroth, and he should fall quickly. But don't forget your limit breaks. Tifa, Barret, and Cid have multiple hits with their highest breaks.

FF8: I fount that you level isn't as important as proper junctioning. Make sure you have every stat covered as well as elemental and status defence.

As for Eden, I'd just get it from Tiamat unless you're a completionist. (But you should still go to the lab to get Bahamut.) Then you can just go back to the overworld to build it up.

And just because all the other questions are about prefered parties, I'll answer it here.

Contrary to the other 3 games, I do have a prefered party for the final battle (also works against Omega Weapon). Fistly you must complete the King of Cards quest. Then play the king until you get the Gilgamesh card.

*SPOILER*



The King of Cards is Quistis.



*END SPOILER*

Then mod the card for 10 Holy Wars. You can use them all on Ultimecia, or half on her and the rest on Omega Weapon. Anyway, for Ultimiecia, attack the useless random characters so they die and you get your preffered party. Then blast her first 3 forms with Eden and your characters limit breaks. Here, I prefer Squall for Lionheart, Quistis to use Eden and White Wind, and Irvine because you can get 3 to 4 hits a turn with AP ammo (That's faster than with Pulse ammo. And it still does max damage.). I prefer Irvine to Zell because you don't need to use button combos.

Then when you face her final form, let het use Hell's judgement, or whatever attack drop your HP to 1. Heal Quistis, then use a holy war. Quistis uses Eden, while Squall and Irvine have unlimited Limit breaks thanks to their low HP. Simply use another Holy war the instant one wears off. You should have her beat in no time.
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Unread 07-31-2004, 04:05 AM   #14
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KOTRound (Can't confuse that with "Knights of the Old Republic", can we?
No, of course not. Considering the fact the abbreviation of "Knights of the Old Republic" is KOTOR.

Also, Holy Wars aren't needed against Ultemecia; she's too cakey. As for Omega Weapon, you can always hope luck is on your side and bring Rinoa into battle, and when Omega Weapon uses that one attac, hope Anelo comes in and snatches a Phoenix Down to revive someone.

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Unread 07-31-2004, 10:46 AM   #15
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Lord The Night Knight: On your FF1 and FF6: He is asking for the best. Of course you can play the game and be creative. Of course you can play through the game and use the ultra-powerful items and spells to eventually win. He isn't saying that he can't beat the games. He's just curious as to what the actual best characters are. Raw.
So why don't you give him some information that he is asking for, eh?

I never played 7 or 8 so I don't know if you're helping him with that. In fact, I didn't even read those questions or answers...
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Unread 07-31-2004, 12:14 PM   #16
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Looking over this, I feel as though it's crazy that I've passed FF6, 7, and 8, all numerous times without doing any of the things gone over to become uber. Is that... weird?
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Unread 07-31-2004, 12:22 PM   #17
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It means that you have a good grasp of how to spend your time.
By not wasting it on unnecessary pseudo-secrets in video games. Remember that all this uber crap is made up by fanatics. Once you've done everything there is to do, you don't have to look for bugs or level to 99. It's just what some idiots do when they have no lives.
Not like the current me, but certainly like a past me. (When I played FF1, for example)

Unfortunately, KefkaTaran, you're not wierd except within this company. You have a greater fault. You're NORMAL!!!
Unless you have a different love. There are many freaks who aren't Final Fantasy Freaks. You may have other addictions.
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Unread 07-31-2004, 12:26 PM   #18
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I think I may just be a videogame freak in general. I may not waste all my time finding unnecessary secrets in one game, but I certainly waste the majority of my time playing videogames. Oh well. Life's not so bad. :p
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Unread 07-31-2004, 12:33 PM   #19
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Once you've done everything there is to do, you don't have to look for bugs or level to 99. It's just what some idiots do when they have no lives.
Or just what we like to do with certain games we really like. Geez...
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Unread 08-10-2004, 01:38 PM   #20
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Or they can be driven by the need complete the game fully. Not everyone who gets to lv.99 is a loser dude. That's far too stereotypical. Some people say playing video games at all is a waste of life and time. I'm sure you don't want to be one of them.
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