FF XII....What are the prospects? - Page 2

beinsane · 10-18-2004, 11:51 AM

The FFLs were released in the early '90s. They're not really connected to the FF series, having been released as SaGa I-III in Japan, and followed by Romancing SaGa I-III (not released in America) on the SNES, SaGa Frontier I and II on the PlayStation, and Unlimited SaGa on the PS2. The series is known for game systems that are very innovative and experimental, which is to say nearly unplayable.

And for that matter, FF Gaiden: Seiken Densetsu (a.k.a. Final Fantasy Adventure / Sword of Mana) had one playable character and one NPC in the party; SD2 (Secret of Mana) and SD3 had three, but each player could only control one at a time; I haven't played SD4 (Legend of Mana).

snuj · 10-18-2004, 11:54 AM

FFXII has me worried. After FFX, I lost some of my faith in Square (although FFXI did help to restore it a bit). But Vaan looks way too much like that bastard Tidus. I sure hope he isn't such an annoying, whiny ass the way Tidus was.

I've heard that FFXII is going to be very non-linear, which is deffinatly a good thing. One of the biggest things I hatted about FFX was how goddamn linear it was.

I don't know much about the new battle system, but it sounds good so far.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 10-18-2004, 12:50 PM

i have an xbox so i dont play any of the newer ff games but
i have seen a spoof animation on a flash site its pretty funny and if u play ff ull see alot of the jokes http://www.flashplayer.com/animation/finalfantasy.html
u can watch it if u want

mammothtank · 10-18-2004, 06:16 PM

I have played and beaten FFLII-III, and I will say that they have very few connections to the more familiar FF series. Fire/Lit/Ice representing the three primary damage spells is the only similarity I can think of.
One thing I didn't like very much about them was the monster/meat system. For those of you who have no clue what I'm rambling about, you would often find monster meat at the end of a battle. When given to one of your characters to eat, this meat would change him/her into a monster. The only purpose I could find in it was the novelty of having a party full of monsters; few of them were any better than the humans and/or mutants you started with.
BTW... where's this FFXII site? I'm curious - I really enjoyed FFTA.

Lost in Time · 10-18-2004, 06:49 PM

Actually looking at FFXII, I'm kinda excited for it. I haven't played X-2 or compleated FFX. And it looks like its going to have loks of puzzles on account of you having the ability to move the camera around.

The only relation XII has with FFTA is the land. The judges is compleatly different. In FFTA the judges are respected law enforcers. In XII the judges are feared throughout the land. So that's plenty different.

I also haven't played FFT, FFL I-III, or Vargants Story. I have no idea what they're about either. So this is going to come to me as a plesant surprise. Hopefully.

Gorefiend · 10-18-2004, 07:20 PM

Guess what, NIETHER HAVE I!!!! I've lived ou most of my life on a little desert island with my buddy Wilson, having contact with boats, and updating myself about society sparingly. Unfortunately, every boat that tried to resque me has become shipwrecked, so I'm stuck! (jk) However, the effects are still the same. I've missed out on just about every cool thing that's going on. Otherwise, I'd probably be a fan of TONS more games. I HAVE played the Legends series, but got bored because I happened to have the ability to play FF6, or 5, or 4, or X at the time....

The FF XII website is in Japanese. It's here.

I also decided to re-search the internet for the proper URL, and stumbled upon the US website (talk about ignorant!) it is here.

After looking at the character pictures I saw, you might get what I meant by wierd lookig characters. (I saw the ones in the Japanese site) Also, I only question the battle system because, in text, it sounds wierd. I'm sure that once I PLAY the game, or a similar one, I'll get it. BTW, I agree with an earlier post that each game is it's own game, to be judged differently. I STILL think that they could have tried to add vioces to the PS versions, though.... but that's an entirely different, and currently non-existent thread....

And, I don't know where I heard that it was in the same Ivalice. I know that FFT and FFTA were both in worlds named Ivalice, but that that was as far as the two were related. However, I guess seeing a Viera as one of the main characters, plus hearing it from some source, add up in your mind...

And, WHY THE HECK aren't there any Moogles? If you're going to have an FF game happen in Ivalice, with all the same races, then WHY NO MOOGLES? And no (insert name of lizard guys...) either! It's an outrage!!!

Lastly, there is still one doubt in my head, which is whether anyone can give me a guess if this one will stand out. As the first poster in this thread said, they got some of the crap out of their system now. And the gameplay looks promising. But, there is always room for a screw up. Always.

Zarb · 10-18-2004, 07:23 PM

I hope this game crashes and burns. Ive been unhappy with Final Fantasy since 6, with the exception of the two Tactics games.

Lost in Time · 10-18-2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorefiend

And, WHY THE HECK aren't there any Moogles? If you're going to have an FF game happen in Ivalice, with all the same races, then WHY NO MOOGLES? And no (insert name of lizard guys...) either! It's an outrage!!!

I can't remember if I have seen any moogles in any screenshots or not. But I have seen the Bangaa (Lizard Guys) They're pretty huge, big as some buildings in the town.

EVILNess · 10-19-2004, 12:25 AM

I don't consider 12 a sequel. Sure it takes place in Ivalice, but it has nothing to do with any FFT game. In all actuality if you look hard enough in 9 there is enough to support that it takes place in the same world as the original Final Fantasy. So, unless they have judges or the church of saint Ajora, this game has nothing to do with any Tactics game. Unless its a prequel to the original FFT, that thought has crossed my mind many times.

KefkaTaran · 10-19-2004, 12:31 AM

Actually, yeah, I'm pretty positive that I've read there are both Moogles and lizardmen in the game. I've seen pics of the lizard guys but not of Moogles. Chances are they'll rock.

And I doubt it'll be TOO non-linear, and that's not a bad thing. Console RPGs, especially FF games, are not meant to be very non-linear. But I have heard it'll be a bit less linear than FFX, yes, so... no problems there.

10-18-2004, 11:51 AM	#11
beinsane Prinny, dood! Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 47	The FFLs were released in the early '90s. They're not really connected to the FF series, having been released as SaGa I-III in Japan, and followed by Romancing SaGa I-III (not released in America) on the SNES, SaGa Frontier I and II on the PlayStation, and Unlimited SaGa on the PS2. The series is known for game systems that are very innovative and experimental, which is to say nearly unplayable. And for that matter, FF Gaiden: Seiken Densetsu (a.k.a. Final Fantasy Adventure / Sword of Mana) had one playable character and one NPC in the party; SD2 (Secret of Mana) and SD3 had three, but each player could only control one at a time; I haven't played SD4 (Legend of Mana). __________________ You gotta put down the duckie if you wanna play the saxophone.

10-18-2004, 06:49 PM	#15
Lost in Time Fungus Among Us Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: On Your Nightstand Posts: 1,967	Actually looking at FFXII, I'm kinda excited for it. I haven't played X-2 or compleated FFX. And it looks like its going to have loks of puzzles on account of you having the ability to move the camera around. The only relation XII has with FFTA is the land. The judges is compleatly different. In FFTA the judges are respected law enforcers. In XII the judges are feared throughout the land. So that's plenty different. I also haven't played FFT, FFL I-III, or Vargants Story. I have no idea what they're about either. So this is going to come to me as a plesant surprise. Hopefully. __________________ Eat me!

10-18-2004, 07:20 PM	#16
Gorefiend That Guy Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: The city that doesn't sleep Posts: 1,039	Guess what, NIETHER HAVE I!!!! I've lived ou most of my life on a little desert island with my buddy Wilson, having contact with boats, and updating myself about society sparingly. Unfortunately, every boat that tried to resque me has become shipwrecked, so I'm stuck! (jk) However, the effects are still the same. I've missed out on just about every cool thing that's going on. Otherwise, I'd probably be a fan of TONS more games. I HAVE played the Legends series, but got bored because I happened to have the ability to play FF6, or 5, or 4, or X at the time.... The FF XII website is in Japanese. It's here. I also decided to re-search the internet for the proper URL, and stumbled upon the US website (talk about ignorant!) it is here. After looking at the character pictures I saw, you might get what I meant by wierd lookig characters. (I saw the ones in the Japanese site) Also, I only question the battle system because, in text, it sounds wierd. I'm sure that once I *PLAY* the game, or a similar one, I'll get it. BTW, I agree with an earlier post that each game is it's own game, to be judged differently. I STILL think that they could have tried to add vioces to the PS versions, though.... but that's an entirely different, and currently non-existent thread.... And, I don't know where I heard that it was in the same Ivalice. I know that FFT and FFTA were both in worlds named Ivalice, but that that was as far as the two were related. However, I guess seeing a Viera as one of the main characters, plus hearing it from some source, add up in your mind... And, WHY THE HECK aren't there any Moogles? If you're going to have an FF game happen in Ivalice, with all the same races, then WHY NO MOOGLES? And no (insert name of lizard guys...) either! It's an outrage!!! Lastly, there is still one doubt in my head, which is whether anyone can give me a guess if this one will stand out. As the first poster in this thread said, they got some of the crap out of their system now. And the gameplay looks promising. But, there is always room for a screw up. Always. __________________ The world of truth has no certainty. The world of fact has no hope. "Environmental laws were not passed to protect our air and water... they were passed to get votes. Seasonal anti-smut campaigns are not conducted to rid our communities of moral rot... they are conducted to give an aura of saintliness to the office-seekers who demand them." - Frank Zappa, prelude to Joe's Garage Ever wonder THE TRUTH ABOUT BLACK HELICOPTERS?

10-19-2004, 12:31 AM	#20
KefkaTaran Magikoopa Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,545	Actually, yeah, I'm pretty positive that I've read there are both Moogles and lizardmen in the game. I've seen pics of the lizard guys but not of Moogles. Chances are they'll rock. And I doubt it'll be TOO non-linear, and that's not a bad thing. Console RPGs, especially FF games, are not meant to be very non-linear. But I have heard it'll be a bit less linear than FFX, yes, so... no problems there. __________________ So break, my heart, for I must hold my tongue.

10-18-2004, 06:16 PM	#14
mammothtank We make good team! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: kicks Iowa Posts: 1,722	I have played and beaten FFLII-III, and I will say that they have very few connections to the more familiar FF series. Fire/Lit/Ice representing the three primary damage spells is the only similarity I can think of. One thing I didn't like very much about them was the monster/meat system. For those of you who have no clue what I'm rambling about, you would often find monster meat at the end of a battle. When given to one of your characters to eat, this meat would change him/her into a monster. The only purpose I could find in it was the novelty of having a party full of monsters; few of them were any better than the humans and/or mutants you started with. BTW... where's this FFXII site? I'm curious - I really enjoyed FFTA.

10-18-2004, 07:23 PM	#17
Zarb The DESTROYER! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 52	I hope this game crashes and burns. Ive been unhappy with Final Fantasy since 6, with the exception of the two Tactics games.