Soldiers of Light: Mafia

[Arhra]

Oh, you don't want to lynch me. You really don't. Trust me, I'm Arhra.

Given how inactive people will be dropped if they don't post, I don't see any reason to vote for them now. I don't quite understand what you meant by 'trying to smash holes in the inactive people theory' Newb.

As for witchhunts, all I meant was that delaying only gives advantages to the mafia. With so little to go on at the start of the game, that's what the first lynchings are. There's almost no evidence to go on.

Of course, given my reputation for sneakiness if I was a threat, I'd try to look harmless. Unless I was banking on that and so act suspicious to make people think I wasn't a danger. There's the possibility of a triple bluff too. Oh the layers within layers.

To cut through the confusion, I shall say I most definately am not a threat to the town.

The most obvious bet is targeting the people who seemed really against TWG. There is the danger that's the reason the mafia choose to go for him for exactly that reason though. Being as suspicious as I am, I think I'll have to say its probably not one of those people then.

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

Originally Posted by Ecurt

There aren't that many hints as to who the mafia could be. However, we know that the imposter was trying to kill TWG because TWG was talking too much and he needed to be silenced (or so she said). The vigilante was after him only because he had distressed other people; this sounds kind of like bandwagoning, if you ask me.

Just a minor correction on that, Ecurt. I don't believe this triple-attempt was bandwagoning, since none of the separate groups (and individuals) could actually intercommunicate. It was just perhaps blind coincidence.

I must congratulate the Bodyguard, however, for having insight and intervening.

That, or on a wild - and perhaps baseless - suspicion, he/she was converted the instant that night on pure luck and was protecting the cult leader - which may well be TWG.

This makes me draw two conclusions: Either the Bodyguard realised that TWG may well be innocent and was protecting him on insight to TWG narking several people during the day, or...

TWG is the Cult Leader and made the bodyguard his first convert by pure blind luck on that night, which leads to the bodyguard purposefully protecting TWG in order to ensure his safety in the near future.

The italicised conclusion is what I’m more inclined to believe myself. I could be wrong, really.

Also, my FoS is still shakily pointed towards Arhra – because he offers a cunningly neutral reason for NOT voting for him. However, I’m not planning on doing any more damage until later in the Game Day (since you guys traumatized me with the first lynching), so I’ll just continue to peer at Arhra suspiciously.

[Arhra]

Actually, didn't Mesden say that there was no cult recruitment on the first night (When MoM turned up dead I mean)? I think all actions are resolved simultaneously too. So even if the bodyguard was recruited, if they weren't set to guard TWG already, it wouldn't have been able to be changed.

[Bailey]

It looked like you were deliberately making fun of TWG's idea that the inactive people were mafiates.

And them being gotten rid of if they don't post does not mean that they can't be mafiates anyway.

If they are kept alive, then when they are replaced those slots can still be mafiate.



But, with the level of intelligence you have shown elsewhere, I would guess that you would have already realized all this. I believe you are feigning foolishness to avert suspicion.

Edits in bold

[Arhra]

The point is, if there are people being inactive, we're better off without them anyway. All they do is increase the number of votes needed to lynch someone. So, whether the people are hidden mafia goons or simply inactive, if they are lynched, a benefit is still gained.

However, with inactive players being dropped automatically, it is less effective a target.

[Bailey]

Perhaps, but we only have one person on the waiting list.

That means that it's very unlikely that all of them will be dropped.


And as for this:

Oh, you don't want to lynch me. You really don't.

Care to give a reason?

Just that statement might be enough to make the mafia try to dispatch you tonight, but I sincerely doubt it's going to be enough to make the bodygaurd protect you.

If you say what your role is, or whatever your reason for being defended may be, however, I'm sure that you will be defended for the next few nights.

Almost positive of it in fact.

[CallmePrismatic]

Originally Posted by Newb's List

Crotchknocker 0
Druidal 0
King Black Mage 0
RedMageBlack 0
SSB Intern 0

Ok, as has been pointed out, there is only one person on the waiting list, so unless Mesden is planning on just eliminating all non-participants (as opposed to replacement) then we can vote off one of 4 possible lowlayers. Right now I have a blanket FOS on all five and whoever doesn't post by the end of the solar day I will probably be likely to vote for, UNLESS Mesden reveals her actions concerning non-voters who can't be replaced.

[The Wandering God]

Originally Posted by Rhiya Ravenwing

Just a minor correction on that, Ecurt. I don't believe this triple-attempt was bandwagoning, since none of the separate groups (and individuals) could actually intercommunicate. It was just perhaps blind coincidence.

I must congratulate the Bodyguard, however, for having insight and intervening.

That, or on a wild - and perhaps baseless - suspicion, he/she was converted the instant that night on pure luck and was protecting the cult leader - which may well be TWG.

This makes me draw two conclusions: Either the Bodyguard realised that TWG may well be innocent and was protecting him on insight to TWG narking several people during the day, or...

TWG is the Cult Leader and made the bodyguard his first convert by pure blind luck on that night, which leads to the bodyguard purposefully protecting TWG in order to ensure his safety in the near future.

The italicised conclusion is what I’m more inclined to believe myself. I could be wrong, really.

Also, my FoS is still shakily pointed towards Arhra – because he offers a cunningly neutral reason for NOT voting for him. However, I’m not planning on doing any more damage until later in the Game Day (since you guys traumatized me with the first lynching), so I’ll just continue to peer at Arhra suspiciously.

Ya know, I have to say, my major defense against that cult leader theory (ya know, the fact that it would be only way to make me look suspicious right now. Hmmmm, who would want to make me look suspcious? Town threat that got upset I didn't bite it last night.) is that, well, that would be very dumb.

I have the highest (outside of Mesden) game post count. Maybe it's just me, but if I were the cult leader, I would be hanging just under the radar and watching everyone. Not jumping in right away with an FoS and making a big deal out of a math error.

And now i"m going to have to FoS: Rhiya Ravenwing for that nasty little attack. And way to try to shift focus towards Ahra at the end of your post.

Speaking of Ahra... You seem to have posted more since I made the comments about inactive players and Newb voted for you. Hmmmmmm.

The Wandering God

[P-Sleazy]

All this talk of Arhra's saying "Oh, you don't want to lynch me. You really don't. " is just bulls waddle. All he did right there is claim a monk role. Basically, it gives you nothing. You have no idea whether thats a lie due to him being a mafiate or him trying to save himself from being lynched (also saves us from lynching a monk).

As of now, my list of Mafiates still stands at

1. Catlover
2. Major Blood

based on reasons I've previously stated in my previous post found here

Arhra will not be added to this list at this time mainly because I dont believe a lack of posting should be considered as adequate proof that you are a mafiate and thus, you should be lynched. The mafiates would probably post as much as the rest of us do, to throw some suspicion off of them.

The people who dont post as often (myself included) may not have as much time on thier hands too keep track of this all day long everyday. In the past few days, I only had enough time to check this once, MAYBE twice a day due to my having to go to work each day since this started. However those who haven't posted at all...Lets replace them as their not contributing anything for most likely not getting a role they wanted (a killing role) and it is only hurting the rest of us townies if they dont contribute as it is making us go off on a wild goose chase of townies.

and Thus my current vote for the day is the same as it was on the previous day.

VOTE: CATLOVER

[Bailey]

The issue is not that Arhra was not posting much, the issue is that he voted, and then dissapeared without a real reason for his vote. And then his explanation for his behavior really didn't convince me, and I'm guessing he didn't convince a lot of other people too.

EDIT:

I'm keeping track of this entire game using an excel spreadsheet. It's the same thing I did last game, and so far three of my four mafiate guesses have turned out right over there.

I'll post my list when I feel that enough time has passed for the list to be accurate.

I messed up in the first game because I was trying to go with feelings, like I do to win in person, but here, where faces are unseen and tones are unheard, ascribing values to arguments seems to be working.