Mafia: Bleach

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Cephrir

If you feel that you should vote for someone random even though you just said that you're suspicious of three people, you go right ahead and do that.

Actually...

Originally Posted by Roy

Day. One. Gut feelings are all I have to go on. Unless you want me to vote for Fenris, Mesden, or Ecurt, because they're the only ones who've posted anything remotely incriminating and that was just if you interpret it poorly.

Nah, he really didn't.

[Cephrir]

Oh, wow. Maybe the bad grammar messed me up, or maybe I'm just an idiot. I'd like to believe the former.

[h4x.m4g3]

Originally Posted by Mesden

Well, alright then, Hax. Just so you know, time's almost up. You've got, what?17ish hours left, you know that? Deadline's set and there's little time to change things one might regret.

But, you know, hey! Kill him because he's okay with it. Sorry, that doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

What I meant was until I can find someone I want to vote for (instead of participating in every arguement) he's where my vote lands, because no one ever wants to vote no lynch (as it doesn't help us). I hardly see 17 hours being not enough time to re-read all the post and formulate a decision. Perhaps not enough time for enough people to log on and switch their votes, but hey that's why I'm leaving my vote on him till a better one arises.

Now if you'll excuse me I'll Unvote:Faucknerwhatever because I'm done re-reading 20-pages of this and been thinking.

Unvote:Faucknerwhatever
As I said, I would vote for Fauckner till I found someone I found to be scummy. So I'm going to Vote: Newb based on the following

Originally Posted by Newb

Alright, Sithdarth is dead.

Sithdarth tended to work with statistics and probabilities, and talked about them at length trying to prove various things with numbers.

So, we're looking here either for someone experienced enough with numbers to know what he was talking about, and wanting him out of the way so they could present their own data without him interjecting, or ignorant enough to be frightened by what those numbers could mean and worried that the numbers could oust them.

Or just a random kill, but let's assume you're right here.

This leaves us with a handful of choices on both ends of the spectrum.

Rather than start an argument, I'll list them by where they are on the main list, rather than by which group I think they're in, and you can all draw your own conclusions as long as nobody talks about that part.

If you're not on this list, I either think you're average or I don't know you, or you're IHMN who I believe rolls dice instead of playing.

1. Arhra
3. Demonlink2
5. Newb
7. Mesden
13. Kneumatic Pnight
14. Inbred Chocobo
19. Major_Blood

Something about the numbers, just strike me odd. Maybe it's because most of them are odd, or prime. I don't know. I'm not the number man, but supposedly these people are the sub-number men, one of them tell them.

So that's 7, and since there's 5 mafiates, 1 SK, and 1 vig, I'm not sure what that means.

Maybe I'm the Vig, KP is the SK, and everybody else on there is mafiate for all I know :p

okay, probably not, but it wouldn't surprise me if three of the mafiates were on that list of seven.

Hmmm, I think it was this part that really set me onto newb's trail. The total number of killing roles is 7 (see the first sentance), but as far as I can tell that has no bearing on the rest of the list, except that the 2 numbers coincide (Perhaps 7 people were picked just so this would happen, but that's more speculation then I like).

The second sentence is more important though, further speculating on the magical number 7. The thing I don't get here is not why he labels himself the vig (after all, out of the 7 roles listed, vig is the only town aligned), but why call KP the SK perhaps to suggest he's anything but mafia?

But next why 3 people on that list? Since your suggesting yourself as a number person lets assume it has to deal with probability. What would be the oods of 3 out of 7 out of 24 being one of 5 mafia members?

Now onto my next point.

Originally Posted by Newb

Actually, I said only that you're not mafiate.

I said nothing of other scum roles. And no, by saying this, I am not saying that Mesden ain't a townie, only clarifying that I only discounted one position, not all scum positions, and saying that Ecurt has no such reading ability, so don't listen to him.

And I did pin you with the vanilla townie and the second time you were CL, so you may want to think about just how readable you are.

After which Mesden states my thoughts exactly.

Originally Posted by Mesden

But, silliness aside, Newb, don't rely so heavily on the words. The only, possible way you could be as sure as you say you are, to know that I'm definitely not a mafiate, is to be a mafiate yourself.

I think it was in fact a slip up caused by well as Mesden said

a "Who can read Mesden better!" contest

It's not the normal hardness evidence that I like, but time limits and all.

Edited to add final thoughts: I wish to have a stronger case against my other scum-elect before presenting my case.

[IHateMakingNames]

Not wanting to come up with my own arguements, I shall leech onto anothers.

And so far, h4x has the best arguement/biggest post. Favored point is the "Because of my supersmartness, and not my alignment, I know you aren't a mafia member"

[Mesden]

Well, guys, I'm dropping! I've got reasons, so don't worry about it too much. Have fun without me!

I'll let SK reveal my role if she feels the need to, or pass it on so no one is the wiser! d(^ ^d)

Edit: Also know that this doesn't imply necessarily anything. Just a lingering piece of "Hm?"

Remember, Mafia is a role too.

[Ryanderman]

So Mesden did have a role. Which means Newb might have been telling the truth when he said he could read her. Just maybe. Though I do find haxmage's theory interesting, and plan to study it further later.

[Mr.Bookworm]

Hax: Every number but 14 is prime.

Vote: Fauckner

[Bailey]

The 3 thing?

There's 5 mafiates.

If three of them are on that list, they have majority within the mafia.



As for why seven, and the following speculation?

Well, it really did turn out to be seven, and I was amused by that, so I decided to make a joke about it. And in chat KP seems like the sort of crazy bastard who would want to kill everybody, so I just slotted him there. The part with the seven was a joke, don't look too much into it.




And Mesden was right.

I can't really know know, however, with my track record, I'm pretty damn sure of myself.

But, bringing it up at all was probably a mistake, because, as she pointed out, saying anything is very nearly saying everything in this situation.

[Cephrir]

Originally Posted by Mr.Bookworm

Hax: Every number but 14 is prime.

Vote: Fauckner

I know you haven't been active, and maybe you've never played before, but give a reason when you vote for someone, and it better not be 'because everyone else is'.

Oh, and nice job, hax. Actually, I'm surprised nobody has voted with you yet. Like everyone says, now we have a deadline. I'm not sure that Newb's defence satisfies me. Actually, anyone reading Newb's post could probably come up with that defence, because it sounds good. I'm not going to vote yet, but I'm definitely thinking about it.

[Fenris]

Originally Posted by Mr.Bookworm

Hax: Every number but 14 is prime.

Vote: Fauckner

Uh, good for it!

Originally Posted by Hax.Mage

Maybe it's because most of them are odd, or prime.

Most, not all. Don't confuse the two.