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Unread 07-23-2009, 07:35 PM   #201
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Unread 07-23-2009, 09:07 PM   #202
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Of course not, that would be a very silly claim to make. Let me be clear - I am not saying that religion is the reason people join the army or go to war. What I am saying is that religion helps REMOVE what would be for many people be a reason NOT to join the army or go to war.
I dont know how many soldiers you've spoken with, but I've yet to talk to one that thinks he'll get a divine reward for dying in the line of duty. As was already said, people dont go to war to die
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Unread 07-23-2009, 10:12 PM   #203
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I dont know how many soldiers you've spoken with, but I've yet to talk to one that thinks he'll get a divine reward for dying in the line of duty. As was already said, people dont go to war to die
I never said that people go to war to die. But yes, most soldiers (like most of the population) are religious, and thus believe that if they die in the line of duty they'll go to heaven, hence removing one of the major motivational obstacles to putting oneself in harm's way.
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Patriotism and religion don't always go hand in hand. And speaking as a mil. brat, I'd say we might wanna curb the religious talk around these parts.
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Unread 07-23-2009, 10:36 PM   #205
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Patriotism and religion don't always go hand in hand.
Clearly not, and I have at no point said that they do.
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Unread 07-23-2009, 11:57 PM   #206
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then, no offence, you have no point at all. Even without religion we'd still have war, they'd just use some other motivators like, killing your enemy will allow your nation to produce jetpacks or if you lose we'll start using aborted fetises as money. You'd be suprised what people will believe
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then, no offence, you have no point at all. Even without religion we'd still have war, they'd just use some other motivators like, killing your enemy will allow your nation to produce jetpacks or if you lose we'll start using aborted fetises as money. You'd be suprised what people will believe
Of course any number of positive motivations for war would remain, as I've acknowledged. I never claimed getting rid of religion would ELIMINATE war. But religion helps to remove (or mitigate) one MASSIVE deterrent to getting involved in warfare; namely the fear of death and the instinct for self-preservation. That is my point.
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Unread 07-24-2009, 12:13 AM   #208
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So... how about we either make a new thread for this in Discussion or stop talking about it? Not trying to backseat mod, I just keep thinking there's a new comic. XP
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So... how about we either make a new thread for this in Discussion or stop talking about it? Not trying to backseat mod, I just keep thinking there's a new comic. XP
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Unread 07-24-2009, 12:17 AM   #210
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there are worse things then death. Plus most holy wars are less about "fight and be rewarded in heaven" and more about "fight and kill the non-believers". Those that think they will be rewarded after death are WAY in the minority. It wouldn't even put a dent in the number of people ready to kill those evil terrorists/communists/nazi/dictators/oppressors/barbarians

[edit] its sad that posts in this thread is how many people know when its updated, to the point they want discussion to minimum so they dont mistakenly think there is
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