The Unpopular Opinions

[Marc v4.0]

Deathclaws actually spawn around the town and inside it, they don't chase things out. You can check it, easy.

[BloodyMage]

As I said, they spawn on the outer edge. For reference, by immediate surrounding area I mean outside of that yellow box. For instance, you said there's a nest at Quarry Junction but you'll find them as far out as Junction 15 railway station. In Fallout 3, they're mainly at Old Olney, but you won't find any at the MDPL-16 power station (unless it's a random encounter, but I've never found a random deathclaw encounter there, but there is a glitch that spawns a death claw inside the station. It's a glitch though, so they aren't really meant to be there.) It's about the same relevant distance.

[Krylo]

Spawned around then. All I know is there's a number of times when I'd be like "Oh that's old olney annnd it's crawling with deathclaws, gonna just go OH GOD WHY IS THERE A DEATHCLAW EATING THE BACK OF MY HEAD"

[Marc v4.0]

Deathclaws, and enemies in general, and a wider detection range in FO3. If the NV Deathclaws had the same aggro radius, they'd have wiped out Sloan already.


the Olney DCs also had an underground network of tunnels and ruins to nest in, unlike the ones in the Quarry.


Either way, there is still a safer way North then wandering through the Deathclaws, -you are not blocked off and forced to go one way around only-. I can draw you a map if you like. In fact, I already did.



The worst you get this way is Cazadores, and your basic weapons can handle them even at level 1.

[BloodyMage]

The point still remains that it's a lot easier to go south than it is to go north. There are many ways south, and only one single safe path north.

Not to mention, it isn't until much later that I even found such a path. I have played and finished the game, you know. When you come out of Goodsprings, you're generally on the east side though, so going north from there takes you directly North. That path is around the back of Goodsprings, or so it feels, but no one ever mentions. Everyone says going north is dangerous so go to Primm. I set out prepared to fight radscorpions and cazadores. I avoided the quarry. I still got caught in a fight with a bunch of deathclaws.

So yeah, there's a path north, around the back. It doesn't take away from the fact that the game is basically shoving you down the southern route.

[Marc v4.0]

Yeah, ok, whatever.

[Karrrrrrrrrrrresche]

Originally Posted by BloodyMage

The point still remains that it's a lot easier to go south than it is to go north. There are many ways south, and only one single safe path north.

Not to mention, it isn't until much later that I even found such a path. I have played and finished the game, you know. When you come out of Goodsprings, you're generally on the east side though, so going north from there takes you directly North. That path is around the back of Goodsprings, or so it feels, but no one ever mentions. Everyone says going north is dangerous so go to Primm. I set out prepared to fight radscorpions and cazadores. I avoided the quarry. I still got caught in a fight with a bunch of deathclaws.

So yeah, there's a path north, around the back. It doesn't take away from the fact that the game is basically shoving you down the southern route.

[Osterbaum]

The worst you get this way is Cazadores, and your basic weapons can handle them even at level 1.

I don't know, I have trouble with cazadores even at higher levels.

[BloodyMage]

Originally Posted by Karesh

That is how I feel...

[Kim]

I don't know why you guys are arguing with someone whose opinion is literally, "I should be able to go whereever I want from word go and if the game puts any actual obstacles in my way that make this a challenge then it is a terrible game."

This is just the sort of argument you should not be taking seriously enough to debate.