PhoenixFlame Presents: Eclipse Phase - Page 24

Dracorion · 05-23-2010, 10:34 PM

Y'know, I probably should max our my SAV, just to make sure Ellen can properly dominate all of you.

Krylo · 05-23-2010, 10:50 PM

You know psis can't actually DO that in this game, right?

You can use subliminal messaging to get us to follow simple commands and you can make us like you, maybe, and can even like, social fu us. But domination? Not so much.

Also, I can hack your biomesh in 3 seconds and force you to experience anything I want by forcing you into XPs and ARs of my choosing.

Jus' throwin' that out there before you decide to try anything nasty with the team.

Edit: That is also like 50% of the reason I dropped psychosurgery from my character. I realized I didn't need to brain hack bios, when I could just hack their perceptions through their mesh. The other 50% is that PF told me I couldn't use Mindlink to psychosurgery someone.

Overcast · 05-23-2010, 10:51 PM

Almost did gun drone scientist, but I decided I wanted to go bio.

Also that could just be a REALLY bad synthetic mask.

Almost eager for that first attempt to twist Daniel. Expect deadpan.

Dracorion · 05-23-2010, 11:00 PM

Hey, Intimidation is kind of like domination.

Also, couldn't she just put a subliminal message in your mind not to hack her biomesh? Or her simulspace when she uses it.

Besides, it'd be nice if Ellen got a little (but just a little) opposition. Otherwise it'd just be boring.

Aerozord · 05-23-2010, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krylo

You know psis can't actually DO that in this game, right?

You can use subliminal messaging to get us to follow simple commands and you can make us like you, maybe, and can even like, social fu us. But domination? Not so much.

Also, I can hack your biomesh in 3 seconds and force you to experience anything I want by forcing you into XPs and ARs of my choosing.

Jus' throwin' that out there before you decide to try anything nasty with the team.

Edit: That is also like 50% of the reason I dropped psychosurgery from my character. I realized I didn't need to brain hack bios, when I could just hack their perceptions through their mesh. The other 50% is that PF told me I couldn't use Mindlink to psychosurgery someone.

speaking of this, and because I'm 4ft tall with no weapons. in combat can I hack into someone why everyone is trying physical combat? and if your freerunning and climbing is good how practicle is it to get in close and plug in with a physical line if one or both are blocking radio transmissions

Krylo · 05-23-2010, 11:09 PM

Considering the instant duration I'm pretty sure you can't put in a command that's going to be long standing. Just a "Do this" or a "Do this when x happens" and they have to be simple commands. Like you could tell someone, "Give me the gun" but you couldn't tell someone, "Jump to the left, step to the right, put your hands on your hips, bring your knees in high, and do a pelvic thrust," or "Don't ever harm me or allow harm to come to me."

The former is too complicated, the latter is the kind of thing you'd need psychosurgery for.

Edit for Aero: No you can't. I only can because I made my character specifically for speed hacking.

An action turn is 3 seconds. Standard hacking takes 10 minutes. Brute force hacking takes 1 minute. In the time it takes you to hack someone as fast as you possibly can there have already been 20 rounds of combat.

Overcast · 05-23-2010, 11:13 PM

As a note Daniel would do the former without needing to be ordered if you had the music to go with it and offered him lingerie.

PhoenixFlame · 05-23-2010, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dracorion

Besides, it'd be nice if Ellen got a little (but just a little) opposition. Otherwise it'd just be boring.

Your proxy would be disappointed with you if you acted like a domineering bitch, you know.

There can be only one.

((The thing about Eclipse Phase is that you can totally play hardball if you wanted to, but you don't because everyone else doesn't like that and they can do it too. It's like the US going "Hey Russia give us this or we'll nuke you" and Russia going "Well I'll nuke you back", and yeah...))

Aerozord · 05-23-2010, 11:54 PM

oh and while I'm reading the setting in more detail, if you think you can manage PF, I'd like to try a mystery arc. really let us explore the setting and its naunces. and can lead to bigger storylines

Arhra · 05-24-2010, 09:29 AM

Hmm, gettin' there!

A few questions:

With forks, AI's and skillsofts that limit the maximum skill rating, do aptitudes get applied on top of the rating? The limit seems awfully low if they don't, since it's so easy to max out.

Secondly, can an infomorph use skillsofts? I found a reference that AI's can make use of them but that's it.

Are there any drugs that I should assume do not have narcoalgorithm equivalents available?

With an item that's Expensive+, what should I use for it's credit cost?

Is there anything stopping me from having creepies packin' heat in the form of pistols?

Um, I think that's everything for the moment.

05-23-2010, 10:34 PM	#231
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Y'know, I probably should max our my SAV, just to make sure Ellen can properly dominate all of you. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

05-23-2010, 10:50 PM	#232
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	You know psis can't actually DO that in this game, right? You can use subliminal messaging to get us to follow simple commands and you can make us like you, maybe, and can even like, social fu us. But domination? Not so much. Also, I can hack your biomesh in 3 seconds and force you to experience anything I want by forcing you into XPs and ARs of my choosing. Jus' throwin' that out there before you decide to try anything nasty with the team. Edit: That is also like 50% of the reason I dropped psychosurgery from my character. I realized I didn't need to brain hack bios, when I could just hack their perceptions through their mesh. The other 50% is that PF told me I couldn't use Mindlink to psychosurgery someone. __________________ I am very tired. Last edited by Krylo; 05-23-2010 at 10:55 PM.

05-23-2010, 10:51 PM	#233
Overcast Cinderella Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Trespassing in the graveyard Posts: 3,076	Almost did gun drone scientist, but I decided I wanted to go bio. Also that could just be a REALLY bad synthetic mask. Almost eager for that first attempt to twist Daniel. Expect deadpan. __________________ Time to bust out the glow sticks!

05-23-2010, 11:00 PM	#234
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Hey, Intimidation is kind of like domination. Also, couldn't she just put a subliminal message in your mind not to hack her biomesh? Or her simulspace when she uses it. Besides, it'd be nice if Ellen got a little (but just a little) opposition. Otherwise it'd just be boring. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

05-23-2010, 11:09 PM	#236
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Considering the instant duration I'm pretty sure you can't put in a command that's going to be long standing. Just a "Do this" or a "Do this when x happens" and they have to be simple commands. Like you could tell someone, "Give me the gun" but you couldn't tell someone, "Jump to the left, step to the right, put your hands on your hips, bring your knees in high, and do a pelvic thrust," or "Don't ever harm me or allow harm to come to me." The former is too complicated, the latter is the kind of thing you'd need psychosurgery for. Edit for Aero: No you can't. I only can because I made my character specifically for speed hacking. An action turn is 3 seconds. Standard hacking takes 10 minutes. Brute force hacking takes 1 minute. In the time it takes you to hack someone as fast as you possibly can there have already been 20 rounds of combat. __________________ I am very tired.

05-23-2010, 11:13 PM	#237
Overcast Cinderella Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Trespassing in the graveyard Posts: 3,076	As a note Daniel would do the former without needing to be ordered if you had the music to go with it and offered him lingerie. __________________ Time to bust out the glow sticks!

05-23-2010, 11:54 PM	#239
Aerozord So we are clear Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Former murder capital of the world Posts: 13,824	oh and while I'm reading the setting in more detail, if you think you can manage PF, I'd like to try a mystery arc. really let us explore the setting and its naunces. and can lead to bigger storylines __________________ "don't hate me for being a heterosexual white guy disparaging slacktivism, hate me for all those murders I've done."

05-24-2010, 09:29 AM	#240
Arhra Ara ara! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Neo Venezia Posts: 5,013	Hmm, gettin' there! A few questions: With forks, AI's and skillsofts that limit the maximum skill rating, do aptitudes get applied on top of the rating? The limit seems awfully low if they don't, since it's so easy to max out. Secondly, can an infomorph use skillsofts? I found a reference that AI's can make use of them but that's it. Are there any drugs that I should assume do not have narcoalgorithm equivalents available? With an item that's Expensive+, what should I use for it's credit cost? Is there anything stopping me from having creepies packin' heat in the form of pistols? Um, I think that's everything for the moment. __________________ This post is a good source of Ara ara, ufufu.* *These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This post is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.