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Unread 07-04-2010, 01:38 AM   #251
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Damn you internet! You have foiled me for the last time!

Man and I thought I was so clever for having thought of that.
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Unread 07-04-2010, 02:07 AM   #252
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Yeah, I really don't know why people are setting upon me. I was only responding to someone who said, "Don't call it an anime, 'cause it's not!" Paraphrased.

Now, let's settle the semantics, since we just had to get into them:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cartoon

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anime

So, according to these, "cartoon" is humorous & "anime" is the style, NOT the region. Now, the way I see it, we can either use the terms in these specific meanings, or we can just accept that there's a connotative drift in both cases & not really care what term a person uses to describe a show like Avatar, so long as it's more-or-less accurate.

With that said, I feel the need to respond to this in particular:

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But somehow "cartoon" despite being used thusly all the time, is not acceptable because it's associated with humorous imagery?
No, that is the exact OPPOSITE of what I am saying. What I said was, "If we cannot use 'anime' because it doesn't fit the *denotation, then we cannot use 'cartoon,' because that also doesn't fit the denotation." Conversely, "If we can use 'anime' because it fits in a connotative sense, then we can use 'cartoon,' because it also fits in a connotative sense."

See? If, then. Precisely the opposite of the double-standard that is being expressed in the quote above.

*=Except that it does fit the denotation, at least according to dictionary.com. It specifically uses the phrase "Japanese style," not "Japanese-originated animation."

On a tangential note, I wonder if they say "animation" or "cartoon" when it comes to American programming, or if they just say "anime"?
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Unread 07-04-2010, 02:15 AM   #253
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Unread 07-04-2010, 02:35 AM   #254
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No, that is the exact OPPOSITE of what I am saying. What I said was, "If we cannot use 'anime' because it doesn't fit the *denotation, then we cannot use 'cartoon,' because that also doesn't fit the denotation." Conversely, "If we can use 'anime' because it fits in a connotative sense, then we can use 'cartoon,' because it also fits in a connotative sense."
I hate to beat this 'comic-book guy' thing into the ground.... EDIT: No, actually that's more of a, eh, what's the polite word for 'complete lie'?


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Unread 07-04-2010, 02:47 AM   #255
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I'm just not a guy you want to start a semantics argument with. Or around, apparently. Frankly, my position, which I cannot stress enough, is that it doesn't matter. But if people feel like it's really important enough to pin down, I'm more than willing to oblige.
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Unread 07-04-2010, 03:11 AM   #256
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So don't mind me coming out of nowhere and totally changing the subject from whatever it was you guys were talking about, but it seems like the general consensus is that the movie is not good at all. However with that said, would it be worth my time to see it for $5.00 (huzzah for half-price Tuesdays) or would it be better to save my money for a sandwich or something?
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Unread 07-04-2010, 03:22 AM   #257
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Unread 07-04-2010, 03:26 AM   #258
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Unread 07-04-2010, 03:26 AM   #259
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