Age of Summoners Discussion 3: Let the arguements Begin!

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

WOOT I'm back ..... o.o"

[Arhra]

At the risk of sounding nit-picky again, charging right into a mob and expecting to win under those constraints is a bit unbelievable Inbred.

Fighting unarmed against people armed with all sorts of nasty sharp things like knives, scythes and pitchforks isn't likely to go too well for you. The mob will just engulf you and drag you down. They're hardly likely to be kind enough to walk up and take a swing at you one at a time and saying

Originally Posted by Inbred Chocobo

The so called weaponry of the mob was almost completely useless as it was either too slow or not strong enough to break through the armor Kelvin wore, so he was taking his time in knocking them out.

Might be a little believable if he was wearing full platemail rather than light armour but even then, they'd trip him or something.

[Inbred Chocobo]

Man, no offense but almost everything I have done has been questioned by everyone. Do yo mind if we just rush ahead, using my highly above average speed to knock out the group instead of just trying to go back fix the problem? I don't want to drag out a fight with a mob that was only suppose to last one or two posts.

[Kildare]

LOL. Arhra, while you have a point there, I must agree with Inbred on this one. This is meant to be a fantasy work/RP, so it is kinda alright if Inbred's character can cut down his enemies as if they were butter, even though if they were a mob. Also, Inbred's Character is a physical element character, so he DOES kinda have the extra advantage here. He's more or less like Hercules, though NOT quite THAT far. Besides, if i'm not mistaken, Inbred is a warrior-like character, so he TENDS to be quite intimidating in battle(either through a display of heavy weaponry, or a kind of "aura" of raw power that is emitted by one who is skilled with weapons or imbued with great energy). Any number of peasants, even if it's a mob, would have a chance of HESITATING in rushing one as skilled as his character is.

But anyway, the point i'm trying to make is that, try not push the others too hard. You can make comments on MY posts, but try to refrain from commenting on the others, because you see, most of them don't really have that LEVEL of rping skills yet, or rather, the level of "sophistry". So give them a break.

[Lumaes]

@Inbred: Actually I'm a little dissapointed with how you're handling the peasants, especially after Raiden was so obliging in his direction of Gabriel.
Firstly, although they are peasants (actually Townsfolk) and have had a religious epiphany doesn't make them stupid. Why would you charge someone because they are looking at a church? And Just because you said "his path is the true one" would they attack you? They would know that the Highfather was deceiving *everyone* as that is what their divine messenger told them. (this part is also directed at Kildare) If a single character can mow through an entire town,(that is armed and ready for the attack) Without using freakin' weapons, then that shifts the game substantially towards "THE CHARACTERS CAN DO ANYTHING THEY LIKE AND CAN ONLY BE STOPPED BY OTHER CHARACTERS" and that is never any real fun. I mean being really fast is all well and good but speed only helps if you have room to move and if anyone knows anything about mob tactics, even untrained mobs, will always use the rush and surround. You said that you were disarming them one after the other? As Arha said they are not likely to attack in that kind of way.
Angelith ,in my opinion, did the smart thing not necessarily attacking but setting up a defense to dissuade any attackers, giving time to reason or explain.
But, Inbred, I now basically have to make TwoMoon intervene, or his whole scheme will be ruined by a few short posts, which is something I really didn't want to make him do.

@Kildare, Several of your arguments are valid, although they may have hesitated, it was Inbred who made them attack suddenly and violently. And although as a character he is substantially better than an average person, if you allow this to set a precedent it will turn into the afformentioned
"THE CHARACTERS CAN DO ANYTHING THEY LIKE AND CAN ONLY BE STOPPED BY OTHER CHARACTERS"
You can't really allow the "physical element" argument now due to the swiftness you allowed him to attain a new summon with extra elements, (three to be precise) complete with spells. Also even though the element of physical does give a combat advantage, he's also dissadvantaging himself by not using a weapon. With the substantial disadvantage that he can't block, and if I read his bio correctly he is only wearing light leather armour. I don't know if you have any experience with farming implements but let me assure you they are quite, quite sharp which completely invalidates the " The so called weaponry of the mob was almost completely useless as it was either too slow or not strong enough to break through the armor Kelvin wore, so he was taking his time in knocking them out." statement.
Taking his time? I'm sorry but that kind of statement really irritates me in the midst of a game.
Inbred, I know that it's infuriating to have your posts questioned, it happened to me alot originally, but that's the only way you get better at this kind of thing, learning how to incorporate your actions into the story interestingly and believably.

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

oh come on! This has gone way to far. Can we just pass this little dispute on and focus on more important stuff, like the plot?

The issue has become horribly and extraordinarily bloated.

INBRED, I believe that people don't want you to try that again.

KILDARE, I believe that although you are defending inbred quite well here, they DO have the advantage over LOGIC and whatnot in this issue. Nevertheless, let it slide.

ARHRA, just... STOPIT with all that lodging of complaints and whatnot for the moment. I know you have very valid points that may help other rper's in their future posts, but right now it definitely ISN'T helping with the actual flow of the rp :p

LUMAES, you have a good point there, but you must also know that most of the time, when one character meets a mob of NPCs, tradition usually states that the character wins no matter WHAT the odds. BESIDES that, although there are some mistakes Inbred has done, it's only MINOR mistakes that can be fixed easily in the next post by some random surprise event.

I don't understand why everybody is getting so carried away with such a petty issue. Jeeze, there's BOUND to be mistakes while rping. Just point it out with a few sentences of logic and be done with it. I mean... *I'M* not perfect during a post either, and there are bound to be times when you, Arhra, slip up as well (though that has yet to be proven)

So, let it go, please, or I'll take Inbred's signature to account and start chucking pencils, while ranting and raging against the inhumanity of it all... if that makes sense.

[Inbred Chocobo]

Well, I'll remember this when they try to take on a mob. Anyway I'm going to go ahead and end this situation immediately, I just hope no one hates the way I end it.

PS I never said leather armor. Nor did I specify any type of armor really. When I wrote my bio, I was thinking of armor around the area of plate mail thinned down and slighty smaller as to allow room.

[Kildare]

Yeah, Rhiya's right. Just drop it and let this lesson be learned. Inbred will watch his posts from now on.

@Rhiya: You mean there's SUPPOSED to be LOGIC in a FANTASY plot? :O

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

*rolls eyes*

don't get me started. EVERYTHING must have at least an IOTA of logic in it, otherwise we'd all be able to godmode :p

I mean, magic's magic, and there's nothing logical about magic unless it's elemental magic pitted against elemental magic, in which SOMETHING has to be weaker than the other (I *STILL* hold that earth's strogner than lightning, but that's for another debate)

But there has to be a system in which events unfold, a LOGICAL system where things can take place. If something is physically illogical, then that person must have ample reason to be able to do that physically illogical thing and be able to EXPLAIN it in a logical way...

I think I lost you there. I don't even know what I'm saying... Still, there is LOGIC in a FANTASY plot, otherwise it's doomed :p

[Astral Harmony]

(grins) There might as well be logic in a fantasy plot. Lord Amon knows there isn't any logic in real life.