META-Mafia! - Page 3

Nikose Tyris · 10-24-2012, 12:27 PM

Eh. I'm Mason'd with Ryanderman anyway, both town, so lynching me just confirms him, alt. you're hurting town. Your call, Gem.

Geminex · 10-24-2012, 12:33 PM

Pure example, dude, we are still in the joke-voting/rules-establishing phase.

If anything I'm trying to figure out how to screw Drac out of a vote.

Nikose Tyris · 10-24-2012, 12:37 PM

I figured with 10 (11?) people, let's not do that too much, might as well make sure my stance is covered.

BahamutFlare · 10-24-2012, 12:55 PM

I honestly want to just give someone all my money randomly. With money, I guess it's mostly done during the day and we can all see it? Seems weird to just outright bribe someone in public.

Money especially being useless makes me just want to give it all away. Because let's face it, it's a trust based system. Just because we take money, doesn't mean we have to do what we were told. We would just be thieves. And swindlers. That person may dislike us, but who cares if they are dying. Or not dying. Idk. Money is useless and as soon as I figure out who I want to give it to, I am.

Buy: First Aid kits Give self more health

I wish I could do this.

rpgdemon · 10-24-2012, 01:15 PM

Since y'all seem to want binding deals, deals will be binding. In order to keep people from being entrapped, if you expect a player to vote or whatever when they accept your money, they will have to $$Accept money from X, which will bind them into the deal that they made. Accepter beware!

Inbred Chocobo · 10-24-2012, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BahamutFlare

I honestly want to just give someone all my money randomly. With money, I guess it's mostly done during the day and we can all see it? Seems weird to just outright bribe someone in public.

Money especially being useless makes me just want to give it all away. Because let's face it, it's a trust based system. Just because we take money, doesn't mean we have to do what we were told. We would just be thieves. And swindlers. That person may dislike us, but who cares if they are dying. Or not dying. Idk. Money is useless and as soon as I figure out who I want to give it to, I am.

I wish I could do this.

From the first post

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The winner of the game is the one with the most points. You also win if your faction wins, but you are not the crown champion.

On health: The game is flavored as a mafia game gone wrong, with trolls ruining players fun, until they drop and quit. So, your health represents your willingness to keep playing. Hit zero, and you're out of there. Get banned, and you're out of there.

Getting points: At the end of the game, you get one point per two points of health you have left. You get five points for having the most money of all the players when the game ends. Money is still yours when you die. You get bonus points for completing your objectives.

So money appears the be directly related to the amount of points you earn at the end of the game, and whoever has the most points wins. This means that everyone is going to want to collect as much money as they can so they get the highest, which means that if you are willing to sacrifice your chance to getting the point count, and give it to someone else, that is a very strong personal motivator for taking a bribe.

It means that bribes do have weight, as everyone wants to get the most points, and whoever has the highest money total at the end of the game gets the most points.

What is interesting is the HP system, and reading over the first post, when we lynch people, they are just banned rather than actually take any damage. So HP is irrelevant to lynches. So what mechanics interact with HP? You want to preserve it, but how? If someone has a way to hurt people, they have a simple way to make people lose hp so they get less points. Someone has a way to heal other people, now they have a way to bribe people.

Essentially, what we are playing here is two different games. One is the normal mafia, in which town is killing scum. However the second game, which ends when the first one does, is that whoever gets the highest point count wins.

This means that people's goals in this could not always be in line with their faction, as they have their own personal motives as well as those of wanting their faction to win, as they will want points.

I am laying it out here because motives in this game are going to be a lot harder to determine, and people trying to guess without all the information means that no one knows whats going on.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 10-24-2012, 01:33 PM

$$Accept money from BahamutFlare

What? He said he wants to give it away anyway.

Also, since Nik's already claming mason status with Ryanderman I guess the next obvious line of questioning is for Ryanderman to confirm this. Of course, they could both be scum, but at least we can start trying to check.

Ryanderman · 10-24-2012, 02:53 PM

I am so very tempted to deny having anything to do with Nikose, just because I can, because just for this moment I have the power to decide whether Nikose lives or dies. But that would be stupid. We're masoned.

BahamutFlare · 10-24-2012, 06:10 PM

Unvote: Nikose

Give all money to Hawk

I get that you can be the big winner by becoming the richest. I'll say that while the idea of that is neat, I'm just going to be perfectly honest and say I have no want for that win.

The Artist Formerly Known as Hawk · 10-24-2012, 06:55 PM

Wow, I can't believe that actually worked!

10-24-2012, 01:15 PM	#25
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	Since y'all seem to want binding deals, deals will be binding. In order to keep people from being entrapped, if you expect a player to vote or whatever when they accept your money, they will have to $$Accept money from X, which will bind them into the deal that they made. Accepter beware! __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

10-24-2012, 02:53 PM	#28
Ryanderman Beard of Leadership Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 827	I am so very tempted to deny having anything to do with Nikose, just because I can, because just for this moment I have the power to decide whether Nikose lives or dies. But that would be stupid. We're masoned. __________________ ~Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to stop, it turns. You tell it to turn, it stops. You tell it to take out the trash, it watches reruns of Firefly.~

10-24-2012, 12:33 PM	#22
Geminex SOM3WH3R3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,606	Pure example, dude, we are still in the joke-voting/rules-establishing phase. If anything I'm trying to figure out how to screw Drac out of a vote.

10-24-2012, 12:55 PM	#24
BahamutFlare Troopa Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 34	I honestly want to just give someone all my money randomly. With money, I guess it's mostly done during the day and we can all see it? Seems weird to just outright bribe someone in public. Money especially being useless makes me just want to give it all away. Because let's face it, it's a trust based system. Just because we take money, doesn't mean we have to do what we were told. We would just be thieves. And swindlers. That person may dislike us, but who cares if they are dying. Or not dying. Idk. Money is useless and as soon as I figure out who I want to give it to, I am. Buy: First Aid kits Give self more health I wish I could do this.

10-24-2012, 06:10 PM	#29
BahamutFlare Troopa Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: PA Posts: 34	Unvote: Nikose Give all money to Hawk I get that you can be the big winner by becoming the richest. I'll say that while the idea of that is neat, I'm just going to be perfectly honest and say I have no want for that win.