Spider-Man 4 is dead; Raimi and Maguire are out of the series

[Premmy]

Dude, Vulture's awesome, fuck you.

[Magus]

But he's just an old guy! With wings!

[The Sevenshot Kid]

Not trying to offend anyone but I greatly prefer live-action to western animation and I have a feeling that so do most people in the world. In my opinion a live action Spectacular Spider-Man would be a great improvement over an already good cartoon.

I can see the reasoning behind the vulture. It could bring out some interesting themes on aging and Peter could start asking himself if he really wants to be web-slinging into his old age. Its just that the Vulture doesn't seem like a serious threat.

[Premmy]

A Pimptastic old guy with wings, just look at that top-hat and and cape!.besides, Vulture's a classic villain, he starts out as a criminal, and moves on to just generally hating Spider-man, plus he's a great ham. We need more ham after two movies without a real Green Goblin.

Originally Posted by The Gunslinger

Not trying to offend anyone but I greatly prefer live-action to western animation and I have a feeling that so do most people in the world. In my opinion a live action Spectacular Spider-Man would be a great improvement over an already good cartoon.

Any reason you don't like animation that comes from America?

[Archbio]

Any reason you don't like animation that comes from America?

Obviously the detail on a monotone expression of angst is more highly defined on an actor's face!

And if the Spiderman series wasn't live action, you hardly could see the actors struggling to avoid looking ackward while trying to emulate the epic scope of a comic book with a low budget!

I've come to appreciate Spectacular Spiderman a whole lot, mostly by watching the original version and actually paying attention, and the Vulture was one thing I thought it did great.

[Premmy]

My issue with superhero movies in general is they all want to be self contained. Which is stupid.
TV Shows? sure, that works.
Movies? uh-uh

If the had kept going with say, three more Sam Raimi Spidey movies, the next sixty years worth of Green goblin stories would have been unusable because they killed him off for reals in the first movie.

Superhero movies should be Like Bond/Godzilla movies, where you know they're making another one in the next year or so, and you come to see it for the newly envisioned action, and the actors can shift around as they please cause it's more about the timelessness of the character.

It's especially annoying because hollywood is damn near overflowing with wise-cracking geeks to play Peter Parker.

come to appreciate Spectacular Spiderman a whole lot, mostly by watching the original version and actually paying attention, and the Vulture was one thing I thought it did great.

Definitely.

The most important thing, I've discovered, about nostalgia is being honest about the relative value of the things you liked.

Growing up I preferred 90's Spider-man TAS to Batman TAS ( please don't throw apples at me) for reason I can't quite remember. Looking at it now, yeah, it's good for it's time but it would get laughed off the airwaves now, even without Spectacular Spider-man overshadowing it. Whereas Batman TAS was good then, and I feel it's good now.

Looking at everything Batman now. Nothing else get every aspect of the characters right and in perfect balance like Batman TAS did, so they focus in on one element. Nolan-verse with the grimdark realism, Brave and the Bold with the silliness and Super-heroism. It takes two Batman productions to do what one Batman show did back then.

[Dracorion]

To those of you who think that Vulture would suck as a villain, I have two words:

Doctor. Octopus.

[Aerozord]

I always liked doc-oct.

As a rule, superhero TV series is almost always, live action is inferior to animation. The only reason it works in movies is they have the time, effort, and budget to encapusulate the epic feel and abilities of the characters. This is more or less an economic impossibility in a live action TV series.

Do you have any idea the degree of special effects needed to simply render spider-man webswinging? While in animation its about as expensive as having him walk down the street.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

My problem with most American animation is that I can't really take it seriously. Spectacular Spider-Man didn't ask me to take it seriously and I loved it for that.

I realize that if they did a TV series the FX department would have to be wizards to make it look like the movies, but if they could get a budget about the size of Heroes' they could make it work as long as they kept everyone from contracting super powers. I'm looking at you Smallville.

[Magus]

It would depend on how much they're willing to put into the effects of Spider-Man web-slinging and swinging, or if they could do this creatively without having to use full CGI. As far as fighting or even clinging to walls it wouldn't require a lot of special effects. There's also plenty of villains they could do without a lot of money going into special effects, as well, but they'd have to pick and choose to a certain degree...

Smallville looks pretty nice, if they could get it to that level I guess it would be worth watching (I'd probably watch it anyway, regardless, if I'm willing to watch Smallville).

Another comic book that would be easy to do on a TV budget is The Punisher, but that would have to heavily censored. Also Batman: Year One would be great as series.