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Mesden · 07-17-2006, 12:50 AM

Just a tip to those new to the game, a bit of friendly roleplaying is fine, but in the first game, it ended it a LOT of chaos, most of it being against the people that did Roleplay.

Just passing that by.

IHMN, we can't trust you on this nor can we really vote for everyone besides you, since the rules wouldn't allow that. A game isn't to be won on the first day, and this whole plan has me thinking you're the SK, off principle really. Needing everyone else dead and what better than an elaborate lynch plan?

Nikose Tyris · 07-17-2006, 12:55 AM

Mesden hit a big reason for my FOS right there. Has Mesden cast her vote, or shall she be saying IHMN?

Mesden · 07-17-2006, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikose

Mesden hit a big reason for my FOS right there. Has Mesden cast her vote, or shall she be saying IHMN?

I'm really trying to wait on him. Also, let me pull out the chances he is a townie.

Now, we have 5 mafia. That's 19:5. SK, 18/6. Cult Leader, initial Initiate and as far as I can tell, they were able to draft at night too, so 15/9.

So, 15 townies, 9 scum. I'm honestly not ready to go with the already unviable plan on sheer fact there's a good enough chance you're scum. SK comes to mind.

Elbodo · 07-17-2006, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by IHateMakingNames:

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Vote: Everyone but me
Seeing as how I only know my role, and no clues yet, I vote we make a special lynching where we kill everyone but me. Then the town wins.

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Vote for everyone except me.
There is more than a 50% chance that I am a townie. So if we kill everyone but me at once, it's likely that the town will win.

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But come one. Quick townie victory. There's more mafia games to come. Why not give it a try?

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Where does it specifically say that only one forumer can be lynched every day? I can't find a rule that says that.

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Well, in law, person can refer to an organization. I'm going to consider everyone not me an organization.
Now if you all will accept that and vote for everyone except me, I'm sure Fenris will accept the vote, and then we have day 1 townie victory, or town defeat. Either way it will be something to remember.

Ok, I know IHMN was probably just joking with those posts and it's not much to go on, but this early in the game I reckon its the best I can do.

If I wanted to lowball my estimate of IHMN's prowess I might say that he might be the serial killer trying a fairly ridiculous ("so crazy it just might work")gambit to actually win as an SK.

If I wanted to credit IHMN with a fairly well-developed capacity for subtle manipulation I might say that his repeated references to and implications of himself as town aligned (which I have underlined in the above quotes) are intended to deflect any suspicion that he is scum.

I'll add to that the fact that he made his first post exactly 5 minutes after Fenris's post that the day had begun. If the timing has any relation to his being scum then I might suspect that during that 5 minute span he had received a PM related to the game. The only two roles that I can think of that would receive a PM would be the P.O. (with the results of his investigation) or a person who had been inducted into the cult and needed to know their new role.

If IHMN was the P.O. one would expect him not to suggest some crazy scheme but rather to try to subtly direct us to scum (if he'd found any) without revealing himself. If he was a P.O. who hadn't found scum he would still probably want to avoid drawing attention to himself by being the first poster (and having such an absurd series of posts).

Then again I could just be incredibly paranoid. I'm not ready to cast my vote yet, but I'm definitely ready to FOS: IHateMakingNames

EDIT: Wow! Double ninja'd by two people who both were apparently quite ready to lowball IHMN's prowess. That'll teach me to take my time and spell-check.

secretskull · 07-17-2006, 01:30 AM

Ummmm Mesden? 5 (mafia) + 1 (SK) +2 (CL and initiate) = 8, not 9. Also there are 25 people in the game so taking away 8 (or 9) will not make 15. I can take this in three ways:
1. You have some kind of secret evil roll, and accidentally counted yourself.
2.You are scum, and you wrote yourself off your calculations (thus subtly claiming a townie or townie aligned role), in order to make us believe you are innocent.
3. You are just a regular townie who made a mistake.

2/3 against you isn�t the best thing to have, and at this stage of the game this is the best evidence we can get, and it has been proven that these things do happen (See Darthmauler).
So, Vote: Mesden

Nikose Tyris · 07-17-2006, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Elbodo

If I wanted to lowball my estimate of IHMN's prowess I might say that he might be the serial killer trying a fairly ridiculous ("so crazy it just might work")gambit to actually win as an SK.

That's not a 'so crazy it just might work' gambit. that's more of a, "I suddenly don't want to play this game, let's get it over with quickly!" and feels almost rude, when taken the way I took it. ^^' I may be wrong. wouldn't be the first time.

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Originally Posted by Elbodo

I'll add to that the fact that he made his first post exactly 5 minutes after Fenris's post that the day had begun. If the timing has any relation to his being scum then I might suspect that during that 5 minute span he had received a PM related to the game. The only two roles that I can think of that would receive a PM would be the P.O. (with the results of his investigation) or a person who had been inducted into the cult and needed to know their new role.

THAT is a big speculation. I have this thread set to instant update, because I want to watch and learn. I considered posting immediately, but decided to hold off. my post would have been 1 minute before his. :P

And of course we ninja'd you. We feel similar to you. Just don't assume; watch for something that's almost solid. His actions make him a viable target at least. :P

Mesden · 07-17-2006, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by secretskull

Ummmm Mesden? 5 (mafia) + 1 (SK) +2 (CL and initiate) = 8, not 9. Also there are 25 people in the game so taking away 8 (or 9) will not make 15. I can take this in three ways:
1. You have some kind of secret evil roll, and accidentally counted yourself.
2.You are scum, and you wrote yourself off your calculations (thus subtly claiming a townie or townie aligned role), in order to make us believe you are innocent.
3. You are just a regular townie who made a mistake.

2/3 against you isn�t the best thing to have, and at this stage of the game this is the best evidence we can get, and it has been proven that these things do happen (See Darthmauler).
So, Vote: Mesden

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Originally Posted by Rule

7) Of the 25, there will be one Cult Leader. The Cult Leader may communicate to the other members of the Cult in any means they see fit.

8) Of the 25, there will be one initial Cult Initiate. The Cult Initiate may communicate to the other members of the Cult in any means they see fit.

Here goes Fenny saying that one of the members of the game are AUTOMATICALLY a cult member along with a CL, seeing as we all got our roles as soon as we signed up.

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Originally Posted by GO Fenny

Delete all of your past posts. Night 0 begins now. The Mafia, PO, BG, and Cult may send in their night roles. Do not post in this thread until day breaks!

Here he is indicating that the Cult ALSO got to draft someone.

So, that would be�

5 Mafia

One Serial Killer

One Cult Leader

One Initial Initiate

One Draftee.

5+1+1+1+1=9.

Also, there are 24 people, if you didn't notice, the Body Guard DIED. So, um, Out of 24 people, as far as I read, 9 are scum. So, 15/9.

Truce · 07-17-2006, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by secretskull

Ummmm Mesden? 5 (mafia) + 1 (SK) +2 (CL and initiate) = 8, not 9. Also there are 25 people in the game so taking away 8 (or 9) will not make 15. I can take this in three ways:
1. You have some kind of secret evil roll, and accidentally counted yourself.
2.You are scum, and you wrote yourself off your calculations (thus subtly claiming a townie or townie aligned role), in order to make us believe you are innocent.
3. You are just a regular townie who made a mistake.

2/3 against you isn’t the best thing to have, and at this stage of the game this is the best evidence we can get, and it has been proven that these things do happen (See Darthmauler).
So, Vote: Mesden

Ahem.

The Cult got another initiate. Meaning that there are three members of the cult (initial initiate, new initiate, and cult head) instead of two, bringing up the total to nine.

Mesden didn't make a mistake. You did.

Also, I don't really understand the reasoning for the second "possibility", while the first one is just something you can't defend against since you cannot claim or even imply that you have one until it's been revealed.

EDIT: NINJA'D!

secretskull · 07-17-2006, 01:37 AM

Ok this is my mistake completely. I didn't read everything Fenris wrote (there is a lesson in here somewhere), and forgot about the first night killing.
I apologize.
Unvote: Mesden .

Mesden · 07-17-2006, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecurt

Ahem.

The Cult got another initiate. Meaning that there are three members of the cult (initial initiate, new initiate, and cult head) instead of two, bringing up the total to nine.

Mesden didn't make a mistake. You did.

Also, I don't really understand the reasoning for the second "possibility", while the first one is just something you can't defend against since you cannot claim or even imply that you have one until it's been revealed.

EDIT: NINJA'D!

Appreciated to a point, Ecurt, but please, from here on out, let me defend myself to all accusations. I know the slight obviousness here, but it's possible I would've said something else.

Just saying, when it comes to me, let me defend myself.

07-17-2006, 12:50 AM	#21
Mesden There is no Toph, only Melon Lord! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inside of a box inside of a smaller box Posts: 4,310	Just a tip to those new to the game, a bit of friendly roleplaying is fine, but in the first game, it ended it a LOT of chaos, most of it being against the people that did Roleplay. Just passing that by. IHMN, we can't trust you on this nor can we really vote for everyone besides you, since the rules wouldn't allow that. A game isn't to be won on the first day, and this whole plan has me thinking you're the SK, off principle really. Needing everyone else dead and what better than an elaborate lynch plan? __________________ I can tell you're lying.

07-17-2006, 01:30 AM	#25
secretskull SMARTASS Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Israel Posts: 1,297	Ummmm Mesden? 5 (mafia) + 1 (SK) +2 (CL and initiate) = 8, not 9. Also there are 25 people in the game so taking away 8 (or 9) will not make 15. I can take this in three ways: 1. You have some kind of secret evil roll, and accidentally counted yourself. 2.You are scum, and you wrote yourself off your calculations (thus subtly claiming a townie or townie aligned role), in order to make us believe you are innocent. 3. You are just a regular townie who made a mistake. 2/3 against you isn�t the best thing to have, and at this stage of the game this is the best evidence we can get, and it has been proven that these things do happen (See Darthmauler). So, Vote: Mesden __________________ Do geese see god? Everyone is an asshole. Including me. Especially including the double asshole who read this and nodded smugly.

07-17-2006, 01:37 AM	#29
secretskull SMARTASS Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Israel Posts: 1,297	Ok this is my mistake completely. I didn't read everything Fenris wrote (there is a lesson in here somewhere), and forgot about the first night killing. I apologize. Unvote: Mesden . __________________ Do geese see god? Everyone is an asshole. Including me. Especially including the double asshole who read this and nodded smugly.