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Unread 12-05-2006, 02:42 PM   #21
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I try to only buy 1 game a month, preferably for only $40, but I am known to scour bargain bins for $5 games (I'm infamously cheap) and well, I want to get into Warhammer 40K, but its $100 for a starter kit. D&D has so far costed me about $85, but Im updatin all my rulebooks, so more like $100. The most exspensive gaming habbit is probably tabletop war games. I know a kid who has invested at least $300 this year into 40K.

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Unread 12-05-2006, 02:59 PM   #22
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Unread 12-07-2006, 04:57 PM   #23
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You see it in the store and go "OOH! $25? Sweet!" But then it's $30 a month, around $50 for each expansion which come out maybe three times a year, and THEN if you catch a virus or buy WoW gold or stuff online, then wow, that's just below $400 a year for JUST the game subscription! OUCH!
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Unread 12-07-2006, 06:08 PM   #24
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In my personal opinion, games like Warhammer and D&D can be the most expensive in the long run. I've wanted to play both for a long time, but I have... erm... a restricted budget.

Okay, I'm broke, are you happy?

I spend probably $100 a year on any and all forms of gaming.
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Unread 12-07-2006, 06:37 PM   #25
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Inspired by Ecurt, I'm gonna have to go with MMORPGs.

Ok, so you're paying like, thirty bucks for the game itself, right? Then you're paying about fifteen dollars a month, so in one year that's $180 in subscription fees. However, I'm not done yet.

Now, let's say you play for an average of twelve hours a day (don't lie, you WoW addicts, I KNOW how you are, this is going light on you), that's costing you roughly $380 a year on your power bill.

We're now up to $560 a year, plus the one time cost of thirty bucks, to bring it to five hundred and ninety dollars. And that's just your immediate monetary costs.

There's a whole lot of other costs, emotional, social, physical, and job related that come from a MMORPG addiction. People don't get enough sleep, let their health deteriorate, have less time for other people (less sex!), let relationships fall apart, buy money off the internet, lose out on performance reviews at work due to not getting enough sleep, etc. etc.

Honestly, given the overall loss, not JUST in money (though that's damn substantial too), nothing else even comes close.
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Unread 12-07-2006, 07:00 PM   #26
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Yep, WoW is seriously draining on your bank balance. I think over here it's like £10 a month after you buy the game (say around £35-£40). Then the power bill (not sure how much that would be over here though).

To be fair though, not everyone is going to buy gold online. That's only for the REAL addicts who LITERALLY have no life!

Glad I stick to Guild wars. Just buy the game and pay for the power. And seeing as I would be on my computer anyway that's not really going to make a difference.

Also, I'm not addicted to GW like everyone on WoW is with that. I mean, I bought Nightfall about three weeks ago and I'm not even off the starting island yet!
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Unread 12-08-2006, 01:56 AM   #27
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Inspired by Ecurt, I'm gonna have to go with MMORPGs.

Ok, so you're paying like, thirty bucks for the game itself, right? Then you're paying about fifteen dollars a month, so in one year that's $180 in subscription fees. However, I'm not done yet.

Now, let's say you play for an average of twelve hours a day (don't lie, you WoW addicts, I KNOW how you are, this is going light on you), that's costing you roughly $380 a year on your power bill.

We're now up to $560 a year, plus the one time cost of thirty bucks, to bring it to five hundred and ninety dollars. And that's just your immediate monetary costs.

There's a whole lot of other costs, emotional, social, physical, and job related that come from a MMORPG addiction. People don't get enough sleep, let their health deteriorate, have less time for other people (less sex!), let relationships fall apart, buy money off the internet, lose out on performance reviews at work due to not getting enough sleep, etc. etc.

Honestly, given the overall loss, not JUST in money (though that's damn substantial too), nothing else even comes close.
To summarize: If time = money, you WOW-fans are in for one hell of a lot of money.
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Unread 12-08-2006, 02:53 AM   #28
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To summarize: If time = money, you WOW-fans are in for one hell.
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Unread 12-08-2006, 03:01 AM   #29
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I'm going to have to say that, in many cases, the power bill from a MMO is a moot point. Nowadays, computers tend to be on much of the day as it is, and therefore using said computer to play WoW over, say, doing your taxes or looking at porn isn't going to make a bit of difference cost-wise.

Secondly, if you're playing like a coke-fiend, then you're probably making enough in-game money from your questing/grinding/etcetera that the need to pay real money to buy fake money isn't really going to be there, otherwise you wouldn't be playing so damn much to get the money that you need for epic mounts, gear, and other such things. Power-levellers and gold farmers typically make their money off the more casual gamers who, for whatever reason, just can't allow themselves to "fall behind" because they don't have the time to put into the game, in which case it's money spent on the absence of an addiction rather than to feed it. Of course, it could also be argued that these are addicts with less free time and an inability to just not play the game.

So yeah, I see that point.

As for the time you spend playing taking a toll on your life as a whole, that goes for any game. You all know you've spent at least one night of your life playing a game, any game, from dusk till dawn and probably into the mid-afternoon. The only reason that it's so much more noticeable with a MMO is that the game never ends. But if you're losing your job and family over a game, regardless of what sort of game it is, I do believe that it's more evident of a larger problem.

However, if we're going to villainize WoW, let's at least put it into perspective with the rest of the genre, that being that if a person spent exactly one year, starting in January 2007 through January 2008, playing WoW and another person played RaiRO during the same duration for the same amount of time a day, the WoW player would spend about $240 more over a gradual, extended period of time. Specifically, $75 in January and then $15 every month for the whole rest of the year.

Furthermore, that total is less expensive than either a Wii, PS3, or X-Box 360 plus games. A hardcore, overly addicted console gamer would pay far more money throughout a one-year span than a similarly pathetic MMO player, and the consequences of any game addiction would be equal.

To summarize, if Time = Money, then MMO players are among the least screwed.
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Unread 12-08-2006, 03:32 AM   #30
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You provide a good argument, POS.

You're right about one thing: Buying a console and its multiple games is more expensive than paying for the subscription of one MMO. At the same time though, it's more expensive still to get what is considered to be a top of the line gaming computer, which constantly needs to be upgraded. The Commando Quad SLI for instance is $4110.

Assuming you're not buying it off Ebay (because, let's face it, the real addicted players waited in line), you would get the PS3 at around $700. The games themselves are $60. You would have to buy over five hundred games to even match that price.

Some play multiple MMOs as well, though generally they won't subscribe to too many, and there are Console MMOs as well.
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