Snorting a Brain Chemical Could Replace Sleep - Page 3

D�rmatte · 03-18-2008, 09:45 AM

You can't eliminate sleep.

When you've got food to hunt or gather, predators to escape, cubs to keep safe and just general keepin' alive and reproducing to do and only so much time to do it, wasting several hours every day laying around doing nothing, even risking death if you don't go to sleep with a full stomach for some animals - if it was possible to somehow not need sleep it would've happened by now.

Evoluition has had millions of years to work on this, and its best solutions so far has been-
A) Sleeping with half or only parts of the brain at a time. As far as I know, all, or nearly all, creatures except mammals do this.
B) Make yourself a nest/den/house of some relative safety and sleep there.

I'm not a biologist or neurologist, but as far as I've read nobody knows exactly what sleep does or why it is so extremely necessary, but I for one wouldn't take a pill - or snort, as it were - like this before years of testing has proven what the side-effects are.

Pip Boy · 03-18-2008, 12:02 PM

I agree with Eruco.

Its not made to completely replace sleep, its made to keep you awake for a few more hours without harmful side effects. Look at it as a sort of super-caffeine. Some people have demanding jobs where they will be forced to pull a few extra hours, and if a shot of this helps them save someone's life, then thats great. They will need to sleep eventually, but it should keep them up and running for the next few hours at least.

They probably do need to do a bit of testing to get the bugs out, and I don't believe there is any such thing as a miracle drug, but this should be useful for those occasional college cram sessions or for when a doctor got one or two more ER patients than he expected. Personally, if I ever wake up in a hospital room with a medical team around me and some metal stuff in my gut, I do not want to hear them talking about how their hands are getting kind of shaky from working 29 hours nonstop.

Seil · 03-18-2008, 12:19 PM

"Don't expect orexin A to give you wings - orexin A helps in times of fatigue or drowsiness."

One of Pwnage · 03-18-2008, 01:14 PM

It seems like everyone has a sleep-meter in the taxi of their body. Every minute your awake, it steadily increases. The more tired you are, the faster it goes up. So I think if youre depriving yourself of sleep when youre completely exhausted (basically what your doing when you use his) the meter will go up so high that you will have to sleep MUCH longer than if you had just taken a nap.

Did they actually say "perform like well-rested monkeys"?

Seil · 03-18-2008, 04:26 PM

Actually, your body follows what's nown as the Circadian clock - check it out here.

03-18-2008, 09:45 AM	#21
D�rmatte Useless Idiot Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The land of vikings and oil. Posts: 81	You can't eliminate sleep. When you've got food to hunt or gather, predators to escape, cubs to keep safe and just general keepin' alive and reproducing to do and only so much time to do it, wasting several hours every day laying around doing nothing, even risking death if you don't go to sleep with a full stomach for some animals - if it was possible to somehow not need sleep it would've happened by now. Evoluition has had millions of years to work on this, and its best solutions so far has been- A) Sleeping with half or only parts of the brain at a time. As far as I know, all, or nearly all, creatures except mammals do this. B) Make yourself a nest/den/house of some relative safety and sleep there. I'm not a biologist or neurologist, but as far as I've read nobody knows exactly what sleep does or why it is so extremely necessary, but I for one wouldn't take a pill - or snort, as it were - like this before years of testing has proven what the side-effects are. __________________ "He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." - Leonardo da Vinci Last edited by D�rmatte; 03-18-2008 at 10:02 AM.

03-18-2008, 12:02 PM	#22
Pip Boy Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: A right and proper Nerd Cave Posts: 2,460	I agree with Eruco. Its not made to completely replace sleep, its made to keep you awake for a few more hours without harmful side effects. Look at it as a sort of super-caffeine. Some people have demanding jobs where they will be forced to pull a few extra hours, and if a shot of this helps them save someone's life, then thats great. They will need to sleep eventually, but it should keep them up and running for the next few hours at least. They probably do need to do a bit of testing to get the bugs out, and I don't believe there is any such thing as a miracle drug, but this should be useful for those occasional college cram sessions or for when a doctor got one or two more ER patients than he expected. Personally, if I ever wake up in a hospital room with a medical team around me and some metal stuff in my gut, I do not want to hear them talking about how their hands are getting kind of shaky from working 29 hours nonstop. Last edited by Pip Boy; 03-18-2008 at 12:05 PM.

03-18-2008, 01:14 PM	#24
One of Pwnage I am so inspired by the words below Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Msn. Talk to me, im probably bored Posts: 150	It seems like everyone has a sleep-meter in the taxi of their body. Every minute your awake, it steadily increases. The more tired you are, the faster it goes up. So I think if youre depriving yourself of sleep when youre completely exhausted (basically what your doing when you use his) the meter will go up so high that you will have to sleep MUCH longer than if you had just taken a nap. Did they actually say "perform like well-rested monkeys"? __________________ There may be no I in team But there is also no I in lose. But there is an I in win. And also in champion. "Bob Sagget!" -Bob Sagget

03-18-2008, 12:19 PM	#23
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	"Don't expect orexin A to give you wings - orexin A helps in times of fatigue or drowsiness."

03-18-2008, 04:26 PM	#25
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	Actually, your body follows what's nown as the Circadian clock - check it out here.