Dissidia Again: Knocking you all down! - Page 3

Regulus Tera · 12-17-2008, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Krylo

Yeah, see, the thing about those games is that a 2D static sprite being superimposed over other 2D sprites, half of which were ALSO static, is not a jarring disconnect from the flow of the game.

In a game where everyone is running around in 3D pissing armageddon all over the place, a little poster of, say, Bahamut being stuck over their faces is just... weird.

A nice tribute to the early days was things like... putting those characters in, and giving them their proper personalities, and what not. Maybe actually basing the appearance of the summons off their earlier conceptions, as opposed to FFX's. Choosing to put a completely out of place static graphical effect into the game isn't a tribute. It's just lazy.

There are multiple versions of the same summon. We've already seen Carbuncle in his VIII and XI renditions.

I admit it is a bit lazy, but I guess I can suspend my disbelief more easily than you. The fact that, so far, all of the summons only affect Brave numbers instead of actually attacking the opponent is more disappointing to me.

Kerensky287 · 12-17-2008, 03:48 AM

Eh. I like the summons how they are. If it was a full 3D thing, then people might expect it to do something other than a quick status effect...

Regulus Tera · 12-17-2008, 06:04 AM

The soundtrack website has updated with a partial (dicks!) tracklist, a preview and a promotional video. Arrangements for Clash on the Big Bridge and Terra are confirmed. The official theme song will be Cosmos, from Your Favorite Enemies. It seems like a dull song, but whatever. If someone could translate the rest of the songs that'd be great.

Also, the guys at Chaotic Cosmos have ripped the songs. They should do good until the soundtrack (with 55 songs at least) is out next Christmas' Eve.

EDIT: Cloud VS Squall with an arrangement of Force Your Way.

EDIT2: AC Cloud VS FFVII Cloud.

EDIT3: ~~GODFUCKINGDAMMIT neither Dancing Mad nor Kefka are in the game.~~ Dancing Mad is in, but not as an arrangement. The Fierce Battle (from the fight against Atma Weapon) doesn't sound bad, however.

Here are the songs taken from each game (those in bold are new arrangements):

FFI - Two renditions of Battle Theme + Main Theme + Town Theme
FFII - Battle Theme + Boss Theme + The Promised Land + something else
FFIII - Boss Battle + Cloud of Darkness + Eternal Wind + one other piece (no The Rocking Grounds wtf?!)
FFIV - Red Wings + Main Theme + Boss Battle + Golbez' Four Elemental Fiends
FFV - The Four Valiant Souls + Battle Theme + Clash on the Big Bridge + NeoExdeath + Mambo de Chocobo + Fanfare
FFVI - Terra + The Decisive Battle + The Fierce Battle + Dancing Mad
FFVII - Opening/Bombing Mission + Those Who Fight Further + Main Theme + One Winged Angel (this one is from Reunion Tracks)
FFVIII - Blue Fields + Force Your Way + The Extreme + The Man With the Machine Gun
FFIX - Battle Theme + Crossing Those Hills + Boss Battle + The Dark Messenger
FFX - Otherworld + Battle Theme + To Zanarkand + Fight With Seymour
FFXI - Three pieces I don't know about, really. Only one (the one from the world map) is arranged.
FFXII - Boss Battle + Theme of the Empire + Desperate Fight

Lord Setheris · 12-17-2008, 08:20 AM

Meh. It's still just another fighting game to me still. How many of the bad guys are sporting the "heavily armored horned helm evil looking big man with sword" look right now anyways? Cause I think we're up to 3.

Regulus Tera · 12-17-2008, 08:24 AM

It's four now. More than one third of the villains, actually.

Lord Setheris · 12-17-2008, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Regulus Tera

It's four now. More than one third of the villains, actually.

And speaking of, why is Chaos trying to gather Golbez despite the fact that he is simply being CONTROLLED by an infinitely more powerful magus.. from the moon?

Its the equivalent of removing cloud of darkness from FF3 and insteading putting in Xande.

Regulus Tera · 12-17-2008, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Setheris

And speaking of, why is Chaos trying to gather Golbez despite the fact that he is simply being CONTROLLED by an infinitely more powerful magus.. from the moon?

Its the equivalent of removing cloud of darkness from FF3 and insteading putting in Xande.

Maybe you should play the game to find out?

Just saying.

Ryong · 12-17-2008, 08:37 AM

Not to mention how Gabranth's and Garland's armor are nearly the same...The same is true for Golbez's and Exdeath's armor. We also have three scantly-clad, girly magicians on the evil side, one of which is a man. On the good side, one wears armor, three wear semi-armor and the rest wears "normal" clothing. Truly, a varied cast.

Krylo · 12-17-2008, 08:45 AM

Wait wait wait.

Just to get this straight:

Are we seriously complaining about how the cast of Dissidia is dressed--when they are, specifically made up of characters--namely the main protagonists and antagonists--from Final Fantasy games whose costumes had been decided long before the game was even conceived?

I mean, that's what it sounds like, but... it's just so... I don't even know.

What? This is how they looked, dressed, and acted in the games. What exactly do you guys want them to do?

Ryong · 12-17-2008, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Krylo

Wait wait wait.

Just to get this straight:

Are we seriously complaining about how the cast of Dissidia is dressed--when they are, specifically made up of characters--namely the main protagonists and antagonists--from Final Fantasy games whose costumes had been decided long before the game was even conceived?

I mean, that's what it sounds like, but... it's just so... I don't even know.

What? This is how they looked, dressed, and acted in the games. What exactly do you guys want them to do?

To note: I was being sarcastic.

I believe putting them all together is causing people to go "my god they all look alike!".

And if anyone finds a wallpaper with all characters facing off, that person would be given a great deal of internets.

12-17-2008, 03:48 AM	#22
Kerensky287 Just That Good Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,426	Eh. I like the summons how they are. If it was a full 3D thing, then people might expect it to do something other than a quick status effect... __________________ People who live in Glass homes should not throw stones or Jerk off at daytime

12-17-2008, 06:04 AM	#23
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	The soundtrack website has updated with a partial (dicks!) tracklist, a preview and a promotional video. Arrangements for Clash on the Big Bridge and Terra are confirmed. The official theme song will be Cosmos, from Your Favorite Enemies. It seems like a dull song, but whatever. If someone could translate the rest of the songs that'd be great. Also, the guys at Chaotic Cosmos have ripped the songs. They should do good until the soundtrack (with 55 songs at least) is out next Christmas' Eve. EDIT: Cloud VS Squall with an arrangement of Force Your Way. EDIT2: AC Cloud VS FFVII Cloud. EDIT3: ~~GODFUCKINGDAMMIT neither Dancing Mad nor Kefka are in the game.~~ Dancing Mad is in, but not as an arrangement. The Fierce Battle (from the fight against Atma Weapon) doesn't sound bad, however. Here are the songs taken from each game (those in bold are new arrangements): FFI - Two renditions of *Battle Theme* + *Main Theme* + Town Theme FFII - *Battle Theme* + Boss Theme + *The Promised Land* + something else FFIII - *Boss Battle* + *Cloud of Darkness* + *Eternal Wind* + one other piece (no The Rocking Grounds wtf?!) FFIV - Red Wings + *Main Theme* + *Boss Battle* + *Golbez' Four Elemental Fiends* FFV - *The Four Valiant Souls* + *Battle Theme* + *Clash on the Big Bridge* + NeoExdeath + Mambo de Chocobo + Fanfare FFVI - *Terra* + *The Decisive Battle* + *The Fierce Battle* + Dancing Mad FFVII - Opening/Bombing Mission + *Those Who Fight Further* + *Main Theme* + One Winged Angel (this one is from Reunion Tracks) FFVIII - *Blue Fields* + *Force Your Way* + *The Extreme* + The Man With the Machine Gun FFIX - *Battle Theme* + Crossing Those Hills + Boss Battle + The Dark Messenger FFX - Otherworld + Battle Theme + *To Zanarkand* + Fight With Seymour FFXI - Three pieces I don't know about, really. Only one (the one from the world map) is arranged. FFXII - Boss Battle + Theme of the Empire + Desperate Fight Last edited by Regulus Tera; 12-17-2008 at 12:25 PM.

12-17-2008, 08:20 AM	#24
Lord Setheris A Guardian Angel Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,311	Meh. It's still just another fighting game to me still. How many of the bad guys are sporting the "heavily armored horned helm evil looking big man with sword" look right now anyways? Cause I think we're up to 3. __________________ As a 21 year old virgin, I'm strongly opposed to anything that reminds me that people are having sex in high school.

12-17-2008, 08:24 AM	#25
Regulus Tera lol i dont even know Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 7,271	It's four now. More than one third of the villains, actually. Last edited by Regulus Tera; 12-17-2008 at 08:27 AM.

12-17-2008, 08:45 AM	#29
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Wait wait wait. Just to get this straight: Are we seriously complaining about how the cast of Dissidia is dressed--when they are, specifically made up of characters--namely the main protagonists and antagonists--from Final Fantasy games whose costumes had been decided long before the game was even conceived? I mean, that's what it sounds like, but... it's just so... I don't even know. What? This is how they looked, dressed, and acted in the games. What exactly do you guys want them to do? __________________ I am very tired.

12-17-2008, 08:37 AM	#28
Ryong Professional Threadkiller Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,798	Not to mention how Gabranth's and Garland's armor are nearly the same...The same is true for Golbez's and Exdeath's armor. We also have three scantly-clad, girly magicians on the evil side, one of which is a man. On the good side, one wears armor, three wear semi-armor and the rest wears "normal" clothing. Truly, a varied cast.