...Wait... Disney... What? - Page 3

Mirai Gen · 04-02-2009, 04:40 PM

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SPOILAR ALERT!
Apparently the Prince does his thing to her in her enchanted sleep; she gets pregnant, gestates a full nine months, gives birth to twins--remember, this is all while she sleeps--and is only woken when one of them crawls up to her breasts and starts to suckle. From what I've heard, she has to track down the Prince and make him marry her. That's her "happily ever after".
/SPOILARZZZ!

Disney: Taking the WTF out of your kid's stories since the early 80s!

01d55 · 04-02-2009, 04:53 PM

Well most of it. It's 90% WTF free!

Nique · 04-02-2009, 04:55 PM

Ah the joys of social programming. This 'love at first sight' thing really needs to be avoided anymore becuase that sure isn't making the divorce rate go down.

Mirai Gen · 04-02-2009, 05:06 PM

Well even at its most basic level most little girls dream about getting swept away and falling in love with a handsome perfect guy - there's nothing new about that. Bringing divorce rates into the topic is its own thread in and of itself and I'm sure I'd stubbornly refuse the fact that Disney kids movies are somehow held responsible.

Plus these movies are like twenty years old. I mean, come on.

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Originally Posted by 01d55

Well most of it. It's 90% WTF free!

Now with less misogyny!

Seil · 04-02-2009, 05:20 PM

Mauve, what about Mulan? Think about a woman's role in ancient China and stuff!

Nique · 04-02-2009, 05:22 PM

Not to blame, but it certainly isn't giving the children who grew up watching the stuff a well rounded approach to what healthy relationships are all about.

01d55 · 04-02-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirai Gen

Well even at its most basic level most little girls dream about getting swept away and falling in love with a handsome perfect guy - there's nothing new about that.

How do you know that? Upon reflection I suspect you might find that you don't.
Honestly I'm pretty sure that Disney told you.

Mirai Gen · 04-02-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nique

Not to blame, but it certainly isn't giving the children who grew up watching the stuff a well rounded approach to what healthy relationships are all about.

Yeah cause six year olds are all ready for the talk about healthy relationships.

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Originally Posted by 01d55

How do you know that? Upon reflection I suspect you might find that you don't.
Honestly I'm pretty sure that Disney told you.

But...

But I dream of it...

POS Industries · 04-02-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shyria Dracnoir

Also, has anyone heard of the latest stink around "The Princess and the Frog"? Something about keeping the prince white even though the 'princess' as it were, is black? I swear, I saw an article about this recently either on MSN, Aol, or Yahoo news but I don't remember exactly where.

Well, it was all a mess from the get-go. Disney wanted to make a movie based in 1920s New Orleans, centered around a young black woman living in the French Quarter working as a chambermaid for a spoiled, rich white debutante. The woman's name was Madelaine, a suitably French name for anyone living in the area during that era regardless of race, shortened to "Maddy" as was common practice at the time. The shortening of the name could be taken as demeaning, because such demeaning shortenings of names was also common practice at the time. All of this was intended to display the adversity that black people in America faced, especially during that era, and the main character would ultimately overcome that adversity in the end and rise above it.

But a number of people couldn't see the forest for the trees and accused Disney of making some bigass racist stereotype, so now the main character is a proud, strong black woman named Tiana who don't let nobody get her down. Now, obviously, the character is stereotype free, amirite?

And the prince in question is European and, thus, white. His story is about crossing of racial lines in a time and place where doing such things was considered an absolute disgrace in the white community, and more so for someone of royal blood to even lower themselves to rubbing elbows with the common folk, regardless of race. To embrace black music and culture, and to travel halfway across the globe to some gritty uncouth place like Louisiana to do so was just not done.

Now, that's all well and good, but the female protagonist that he will invariably fall for and run away with in troo love is black, and a black girl falling in love with a white guy apparently sends the message that love between two black people is wrong or that the only way to succeed as a black person is to escape black culture entirely and assimilate with the white folk? But what message does the outcry against it send? That two people of different races falling in love and making a go of it is wrong? The hypocrisy involved in the complaints is what bothers me most.

I will say that the movie's villain being a black voodoo witch doctor is a little much, but I honestly don't know who else they're supposed to find in 1920s New Orleans to turn a dude into a frog without really reaching like crazy.

Nique · 04-02-2009, 05:43 PM

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Yeah cause six year olds are all ready for the talk about healthy relationships.

Eh, I'm torn between continuing this and just chalking it up a causual joke that doesn't really need to go any further.

I guess let's just say that the majority of relationships that begin in Disney films are bound to end in an ugly divorce/ custody battle if we carry them to their logical conclusion.

"I don't really love you! I just felt obligated becuase you brought me out of a coma! Now you smother me so much I wish I were asleep forever again!"

04-02-2009, 04:53 PM	#22
01d55 Not 55 years old. Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,098	Well most of it. It's 90% WTF free!

04-02-2009, 05:20 PM	#25
Seil Super stressed! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: British Columbia Posts: 8,081	Mauve, what about Mulan? Think about a woman's role in ancient China and stuff!