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Unread 10-12-2009, 10:14 PM   #21
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I wonder how Fox will respond.

How else did you think they would respond? By claiming to be victims of those horrible meanies in the White House.
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Unread 10-12-2009, 10:31 PM   #22
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So they went with option C. Play the victim card.

Options A, B, and D where

A. Attack them back by digging up more dirt on them.

B. Turn over a new leaf (Like that will ever happen)

and

D. Shut up about it and continue business as usual (which would likely lead to option C. anyway.)
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Unread 10-12-2009, 11:09 PM   #23
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So they went with option C. Play the victim card.

D. Shut up about it and continue business as usual (which would likely lead to option C. anyway.)
Those are really the same thing, one doesn't lead into the other. Business as usual is "Lies and Play the Victim"
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Unread 10-12-2009, 11:47 PM   #24
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When a government condemns a news outlet, someone must be showing staggering incompetence. In my country we'd assume that someone was the government, and they'd likely be facing a form of trial for making that sort of accusations. But then, we don't have any Fox News. >_>

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Unread 10-13-2009, 02:03 AM   #25
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When a government condemns a news outlet, someone must be showing staggering incompetence. In my country we'd assume that someone was the government, and they'd likely be facing a form of trial for making that sort of accusations. But then, we don't have any Fox News. >_>
Well, freedom of the press. But just because Fox has that right doesn't mean anyone in the government has to support it. For more information on why Fox News sucks, consult The Young Turks. They've got some really good ones and some that are just okay, but it offers a pretty comprehensive rebuttal.


Edit: Ugh. Just saw their fucking comments section. Can anyone say reactionary trolls? I'll be over here trying not to be sick at some of the filth they're spewing.

Edit again: And by filth, I'm not just talking language, though there is a share of that. Just, ugh. Read it yourself if you want to seriously reconsider having faith in humanity.
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Unread 10-13-2009, 02:23 AM   #26
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consult The Young Turks.
It was much better when you were talking about these guys.
Odd choice of names t hough.

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Unread 10-13-2009, 03:23 AM   #27
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even though socialist dictatorships focused on "communism" whereas fascist dictatorships focused on "private enterprise".
I dont know about that...
I mean, fascism still has a lot of government control over business. Musolini called it a Corporate State. Fascists hated both unrestrained capitalism and state run communism. Fascist didn't go as far as Communists did, but their ideas were in the same vein. Both did nationalize a number of industries(just communism was all the industries, while fascism stopped at a point).

EDIT: Yes, I know, the wealthy/businesses did have quite a bit more say than the average joe in Fascist governments, but it doesn't mean the whole government was out for privatization.

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Unread 10-13-2009, 05:31 AM   #28
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When a government condemns a news outlet, someone must be showing staggering incompetence. In my country we'd assume that someone was the government, and they'd likely be facing a form of trial for making that sort of accusations. But then, we don't have any Fox News. >_>
Well, you can't and shouldn't have to go to trial for accusing a media outlet of bias.

That said, you are right that in general, when a government condemns a news outlet, it is exhibiting staggering incompetence. The phrase "Never get into a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel" comes to mind. Does anyone think Fox is anything other than thrilled to have the white house publicly calling them out?

This is something you leave to media surrogates. Can't they just subcontract this out to Olbermann or someone? He could do an hour-long special comment addressing the issue.
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Unread 10-13-2009, 12:49 PM   #29
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They're right about Fox news though, no need to pull punches when it's so blatantly obvious.

Seriously, it's unwatchable. I cringe when I'm flipping channels and accidentally see an excited gleam in one of the newscaster's eyes, no matter what they're reporting on they talk like a bunch of fucking meth heads. Whether it's on the evils of health care reform or the tragic death of some random murder victim.
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Unread 10-13-2009, 10:24 PM   #30
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They're right about Fox news though, no need to pull punches when it's so blatantly obvious.

Seriously, it's unwatchable. I cringe when I'm flipping channels and accidentally see an excited gleam in one of the newscaster's eyes, no matter what they're reporting on they talk like a bunch of fucking meth heads. Whether it's on the evils of health care reform or the tragic death of some random murder victim.
It's only unwatchable since it's on the other side of the spectrum as most other news outlets. Hell, if I want something close to unbiased about the US I watch BBC.
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