Pokemon Umbral Discussion 25: Pokegeddon Returns - Page 3

Dracorion · 06-01-2010, 11:41 AM

Yes, actually, there was. Right there at the end of AB's synopsis.

Menarker · 06-01-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

Main Formation Battle (Ally Phase)
- Pierce: Charizard has taken severe damage. Medic has taken severe damage. Ally Blaziken has taken 1/3 damage from Flare Blitz. 60 Rage.

Not from what I'm seeing. All I see is the above from the first round, the fact that you got 15 rage if you did a trainer attack during the second round and that fact that rage carried over to this fight. 60 + 15 = 75 max.

And I'm guessing that the axe guy and the snakesword girl that Major Grant hired might very well be the guy who is supposed to be holding Dialga and Discord. Just a wild guess here though. ^^;

Dracorion · 06-01-2010, 11:55 AM

Sigh.

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Main Formation Battle (Ally Phase)
- Moon: Used "Construct Power Amplifier". All Allies SpAttack Up +2. Soldier C has taken severe damage. 0 Rage.
- Matthias: Sunny Day is now in effect. 50/100 Rage.
- Pierce: Charizard has taken severe damage. Medic has taken severe damage. Ally Blaziken has taken 1/3 damage from Flare Blitz. 60 Rage.
- Rachel: Charizard is now paralyzed. Medic has been defeated. 55 Rage.
- Impact: Engineer has taken great damage. 55 Rage.
- Charlotte: Soldier A has taken severe damage. 60 Rage.
- Renny: Infernape has taken great damage. Infernape is flinching. Enemy Blaziken has taken great damage. Enemy Blaziken is flinching. 65 Rage.
- Wilhelmina: Engineer has taken critical damage.
- Harliette: Typhlosion is now asleep. Soldier B has taken great damage. Soldier B is now poisoned. Engineer has been defeated. 60 Rage.
- Trainer Attacks: Soldier D has taken good damage. All participating Trainers Rage increased by 5.

What's that right there at the end?

Oh, yeah.

Anyway, Impact should switch to Siege Boomerang, go apeshit on Gardenoir. Supported by Matthias and Harliette's pokemon.

Menarker · 06-01-2010, 12:01 PM

Your post before that never actually said you were Trainer Attacking. You only declared pokemon attacks. Not that it matters to me at any rate, for the reason I said above.

And I still think we shouldn't spread the damage too much. Probably focus on two of them at most, since these pokebrids are bound to be tougher than the soldiers. I'd suggest attacking the Rapidash and the Frolass since that's what Charlotte is doing already. Plus it'll help with any steel types or grass types we need to send out.

Dracorion · 06-01-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Menarker

And I'm guessing that the axe guy and the snakesword girl that Major Grant hired might very well be the guy who is supposed to be holding Dialga and Discord. Just a wild guess here though. ^^;

No, Discord has my Dialga. THe other guy probably has Palkia.

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Originally Posted by Menarker

Your post before that never actually said you were Trainer Attacking. You only declared pokemon attacks. Not that it matters to me at any rate, for the reason I said above.

No one stated they were Trainer Attacking that turn because we didn't know we could. It was assumed that we did.

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Originally Posted by Menarker

And I still think we shouldn't spread the damage too much. Probably focus on two of them at most, since these pokebrids are bound to be tougher than the soldiers. I'd suggest attacking the Rapidash and the Frolass since that's what Charlotte is doing already. Plus it'll help with any steel types or grass types we need to send out.

I think we can handle three targets. Let me demonstrate:

Gardenoir: Impact's Siege Boomerang, Matthias' attack, Harliette's pokemons' attacks. Four 4x damage attacks.
Frossqueen: Sol-Leks' Overheat, Blaziken's Overheat, Pierce's Trainer Attack. Rachel's Pokemon can do Steel-type attacks for 2x damage. All in all, that's four 2x damage attacks and Pierce's trainer attack.
Pegidash: Hammond's Stone Edge, Tyranitar's Stone Edge, Mollesk's Rock Slide, Harliette's Mineral Shot. That's four 4x damage attacks.
Altarisect: Secondary target from Mollesk's Rock Slide. No matter.

That leaves Moon and Wilhelmina unassigned. Wilhelmina's Nether Shot can do 2x damage to Frossqueen. Moon's Lanturn can use Signal Beam for 4x damage on Gardenoir.

I can see Pegidash definitely down. Gardenoir probably. Frossqueen critically damaged. Keep in mind Moon still has an extra pokemon.

Matthias could Paradigm Shift, just to make sure Gardenoir goes down.

Menarker · 06-01-2010, 12:46 PM

I'm not using Mollesk's Rock Slide. Not yet! While he's legendary, his attack stat is at the moment only average compared to the other pokemons (100), and Rock Slide is weaken when it is divided between foes, even with STAB.

Swampert is attacking with Waterfall for Super Effective damage though.

Also, Siege Boomerang is a ROCK weapon. How is that quad effective on Gardenoir, or even Super Effective?

Dracorion · 06-01-2010, 12:49 PM

What the hell do you mean weakened when it's divided? It's a multi-target attack by default!

Regina's still got six pokemon that she'll presumably be using to replace the other members of Pokegeddon as they go down.

Fine, whatever, do as you will. Just keep in mind that you might have to edit your post if we decide you should do something else. I still find it ridiculous how you like to play it defensive. I mean, there's nothing wrong with a little defense, but spending two turns to boost Mollesk's already astronomical defense stats is too much.

Menarker · 06-01-2010, 12:57 PM

AB said that multi-hit attacks like Earthquake and Rock Slide get weaken to 75% of their normal power when they are used in a group battle instead of a 1 vs 1 battle.

And don't tell me about having to edit my post. Mollesk works best with a few pumps. He's defensive by nature and need a bit of time to be effective if he goes on the offence. Renny's combat style isn't the same as "Spam attack moves until foe is dead."

Regina's pokemon as far as I remember are all unevolved pokemons of the same type the pokegeddon's are. Goldeen, Ralts and all that. At least that's how it was in the Omake they all appeared in.

We could move Impact to use Siege Boomerang on Pegidash for quad and Swampert to hit Frosqueen for double damage with Hammer Arm.
That way, two of the 'Geddons" are quite highly likely to go down, and Gardenoir heavily weaken.

Dracorion · 06-01-2010, 01:00 PM

Buh, I don't remember that rule. It's silly, anyway. Multi-target attacks shouldn't deal reduced damage specifically because they're made to hit two targets.

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Originally Posted by because Menarker edited it out

I control my own pokemon

You're probably joking, but hell, I'm going to snap at you anyway: You don't get to bitch at me for remarking about putting you in the corner of the formation to minimize your Rage Point generation, which you argued would be better for the team, and then refuse to adapt to whatever better strategy we come up with, which would also be good for the team.

You do have more pokemon than Mollesk. Magnezone, for example. Pegidash is probably going down anyway. And even then, Magnezone can take one little super-effective hit.

If I remember correctly, Siege Boomerang is the one that does Bug-type damage. So Impact could use it on Pegidash. For 1/4 damage.

You'd think so, Menarker. But then, the Pokegeddon Pokesapiens weren't DNA spliced in the omakes. I'm guessing Regina's pokemon are now fully evolved.

EDIT: Bah, stop editing your posts. We want Gardenoir dead as soon as possible. As soon as possible being this turn.

Menarker · 06-01-2010, 01:05 PM

Swarm Bow is the Bug weapon! Read the database again before you post! Siege is Rock!

My pokemon team build isn't built to be all out offensive, especially with moves like Follow Me, Cosmic Power, Psych Up, Helping Hand. Naturally I'll snap at you if you try to force a square peg down a round hole. You can advise on what would be a good idea, since you got most of the battle plan down pretty good. But my pokemons don't follow the same gameplan as the rest, especially since I'm planning several turns in advance with Mollesk's Defender's Crest, Rage for Renny's special abilities and all that.

06-01-2010, 11:41 AM	#21
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Yes, actually, there was. Right there at the end of AB's synopsis. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

06-01-2010, 12:01 PM	#24
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Your post before that never actually said you were Trainer Attacking. You only declared pokemon attacks. Not that it matters to me at any rate, for the reason I said above. And I still think we shouldn't spread the damage too much. Probably focus on two of them at most, since these pokebrids are bound to be tougher than the soldiers. I'd suggest attacking the Rapidash and the Frolass since that's what Charlotte is doing already. Plus it'll help with any steel types or grass types we need to send out. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 06-01-2010 at 12:05 PM.

06-01-2010, 12:46 PM	#26
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	I'm not using Mollesk's Rock Slide. Not yet! While he's legendary, his attack stat is at the moment only average compared to the other pokemons (100), and Rock Slide is weaken when it is divided between foes, even with STAB. Swampert is attacking with Waterfall for Super Effective damage though. Also, Siege Boomerang is a ROCK weapon. How is that quad effective on Gardenoir, or even Super Effective? __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 06-01-2010 at 12:52 PM.

06-01-2010, 12:49 PM	#27
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	What the hell do you mean weakened when it's divided? It's a multi-target attack by default! Regina's still got six pokemon that she'll presumably be using to replace the other members of Pokegeddon as they go down. Fine, whatever, do as you will. Just keep in mind that you might have to edit your post if we decide you should do something else. I still find it ridiculous how you like to play it defensive. I mean, there's nothing wrong with a little defense, but spending two turns to boost Mollesk's already astronomical defense stats is too much. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away. Last edited by Dracorion; 06-01-2010 at 12:55 PM.

06-01-2010, 12:57 PM	#28
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	AB said that multi-hit attacks like Earthquake and Rock Slide get weaken to 75% of their normal power when they are used in a group battle instead of a 1 vs 1 battle. And don't tell me about having to edit my post. Mollesk works best with a few pumps. He's defensive by nature and need a bit of time to be effective if he goes on the offence. Renny's combat style isn't the same as "Spam attack moves until foe is dead." Regina's pokemon as far as I remember are all unevolved pokemons of the same type the pokegeddon's are. Goldeen, Ralts and all that. At least that's how it was in the Omake they all appeared in. We could move Impact to use Siege Boomerang on Pegidash for quad and Swampert to hit Frosqueen for double damage with Hammer Arm. That way, two of the 'Geddons" are quite highly likely to go down, and Gardenoir heavily weaken. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 06-01-2010 at 01:01 PM.

06-01-2010, 01:05 PM	#30
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	Swarm Bow is the Bug weapon! Read the database again before you post! Siege is Rock! My pokemon team build isn't built to be all out offensive, especially with moves like Follow Me, Cosmic Power, Psych Up, Helping Hand. Naturally I'll snap at you if you try to force a square peg down a round hole. You can advise on what would be a good idea, since you got most of the battle plan down pretty good. But my pokemons don't follow the same gameplan as the rest, especially since I'm planning several turns in advance with Mollesk's Defender's Crest, Rage for Renny's special abilities and all that. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!