Soul Calibur II Characters.

[sharkythesharkdogg]

Originally Posted by fifthfiend

Can we not pretend we can read the minds of videogame executives... executives that only exist in an alternate, non-existent reality?

I'm sure, had it not actually happened, there would be plenty of people willing to argue "Nuh-uh, no way would Nintendo agree to put Link in a fighting game, it just wouldn't ever happen."

Maybe Tecmo would have decided to be possessive, maybe both companies would have realized that this would allow them to score a huge publicity coup, boosting sales of SCII and also whetting the already powerful public appetite for the forthcoming Ninja Gaiden. "Win, win," so to speak.

Ah, but the thing is that the GC is a Nintendo product, as they specialize in software and hardware. So since it might not be Link on a Nintendo GAME it's still Link on a Nintendo SYSTEM. The only way anyone can ever play Link is on a Nintendo system. So of course that's workable and reasonable. Nintendo feels safe with that. If fact it makes that game MORE synonymous with Nintendo, instead of it jsut being on the system. "win, win once again."

So following this reasoning, Tecmo would only allow Hayabusa on a Tecmo game. That way you'd still have to purschase atleast ONE of their products to ever play him.

The only difference in what happenned on the GC version of SC and the PS2 version is that for the PS2 Namco provided one of their mascots, in the GC version it was Nintendo's mascot. It was still only the software company, and the hardware company involved in all the liscensing issues.

If you bring in an entirely seperate mascot from yet a third buisness, (Microsoft, McFarlane, Namco on the X-box) it's still not a big thing to work out because that third company still doesn't market anything in direct competition with the other two. So it's just a cool advertising gimmick.

However, to expect Tecmo to allow one of their characters to be used in a rival software companies game like Namco (not to mention another fighter which is almost direct competition) IS a little too much to expect.
While we see it as a really cool collaboration between two rival companies to bring something neat to fans of fighters, I'm sure they see it as a potential marketing/liscensing nightmare. Companies might like to cater to us to a degree, but first and foremost is money. If either company wants to boost sales of their products they wouldn't turn to each other. It's like Pepsi and Coke running an add compaign together.
It's not mind reading something from an alternate reality, it's common buisness sense right here right now. Yes, it technically COULD happen, but I feel pretty safe in saying it simply won't. That's all.

[Fifthfiend]

It's like Pepsi and Coke running an add compaign together.

Not really at all.

Pepsi and Coke are competing in what is essentially a duopoly.

Tecmo and Namco are not mortally opposed, they are two game makers in a market glutted with game makers (even with fighting game makers). Thus anything they can do to stand out from the crowd is a positive.

common buisness sense right here right now.

Until I see your MBA, I see no reason to view your 'business sense' as anything other than meaningless speculation.

I'm sure they see it as a potential marketing/liscensing nightmare.

I would also like to see some proof of your expertise regarding copyright law and advertising.

to expect Tecmo to allow one of their characters to be used in a rival software companies game like Namco

CoughCough*CapcomVsSNK*CoughCough

Yes, it technically COULD happen, but I feel pretty safe in saying it simply won't.

Well, it "won't" because it already didn't. SCII was already made and released. We're talking about alternate histories involving entirely seperate sets of business decisions. Hindsight may sometimes be 20/20, but not when you're 'looking' at things you never saw in the first place that had nothing to do with you.

In any event, this is all moving quite thoroughly off-topic, and I personally am moving on.

[sharkythesharkdogg]

Originally Posted by fifthfiend

Until I see your MBA, I see no reason to view your 'business sense' as anything other than meaningless speculation.

Just like you needn't be a Physician to know when somene has the Flu you don't need an MBA to see the potential problems with something like this. Some things you can reasonably draw your own conclusions to. (and yes those conclusions might even be different.) As for the MBA comment, I'd need yours before anything you have to say regarding that it COULD happen carried any weight.

Since CapcomVSSNK was a product put forth by both companies together, it's a little more 50/50. It's in the title after all, and yes that was a great move on their parts. At least I enjoyed the heck out of it.
At any rate this would have something more subtle and not as readily obvious to the public.
That's why it could happen, I just don't think it's likely. I think (yes, me thinking and speculating) that in Tecmo's eyes if something like this was brought to them, their wouldn't be enough "recognition" for their part of the contribution. Perhaps they'd worry that with just one character making a guest appearance it would make them appear like a weaker talent, and detract from their image since they only have one character in a game full of the other companie's folks. I personally wouldn't think this and be all for it, but I don't think that Tecmo would be willing to risk it. Speculation again, I know. It is legal, after all.

Originally Posted by fifthfiend

Well, it "won't" because it already didn't. SCII was already made and released. We're talking about alternate histories involving entirely seperate sets of business decisions. Hindsight may sometimes be 20/20, but not when you're 'looking' at things you never saw in the first place that had nothing to do with you.

I was referring to any potential SC/DOA cross over in the future of course. Thought that was obvious. If something like that occurred I would be genuinly suprised. A happy suprise, but I just don't think most companies work like that. But yes, back to the actual subject.

[TheSpiritOfVengance]

posted by a character from eek the cat SharkytheSharkdog. I was referring to any potential SC/DOA cross over in the future of course.

NOOOOOOOOOO! ahem had to get that out of my throat. Why? I liked soul calibur. Something very very bad is going to happen here that invovles reality folding in on itself several several times. If this happens here is what i predict a lot of good characters are gonna get the chop, and sophitia is going to be the main character of this one so that it could sell better. Say good bye to Cervantes (My favorite), Hwang and probably Raphael too, they are going to get replaced by dead or alive girls trying to pull off being Go Go Yubari. Yep thats what will happen.