Pokemon Umbral Discussion 29: I Dare Nintendo To Make This a Game - Page 3

Menarker · 06-13-2010, 10:12 AM

I'm keeping Mollesk out. Everything else is fine, but there is little point to the buffs if he gets switched right back out. Plus, if he does get knocked out, he is another target for me to use Prosperous Gifts Max Revive on and thus give me rage for.

(Doesn't help that you put Swampert to use Waterfall despite it being a contact move and that wall being up.) You're trying to kill my team off!

Dracorion · 06-13-2010, 11:53 AM

Me me me.

Admittedly, I didn't know Waterfall is a contact move. In that case, have Swampert use Surf, targetting Mollesk, Wildfire and the wall. Although you know, if you hadn't pointed it out AB would probably not have noticed.

But really, there's no point to keeping Mollesk out. I mean, you don't see anyone else sacrificing their pokemon in favor of getting Rage. And more importantly, how could Renny do a heartless thing like sacrificing one of his beloved pokemon? If ya want Rage, just have Rachel use a Rage Rocket on you, you big baby.

Menarker · 06-13-2010, 12:01 PM

You think I'd wanna risk my pokemons on AB just not noticing?

As for the rage, that is out of character justification.

Incharacter, Renny wouldn't want Mollesk to still be suffering and he's taking steps to treat him ASAP by washing it off. Plus, if the oil washes off Mollesk, he can Recover and still fight while having the buff bonus.

Dracorion · 06-13-2010, 12:03 PM

For all the good the buffs did him?

In-character, pokemon are placed in stasis while in the pokeball I think or something AB said so Mollesk wouldn't be suffering from the flames.

Plus, y'know, if it HAD to be ASAP Renny should just use a Full Restore on him then.

Menarker · 06-13-2010, 12:07 PM

I assume it was a crit, since those ignore buffed defense.

Never heard anything like that from AB. I'm just pulling from the anime where pokeballs just help regulate their wellbeing for things like energy (less energy used than if they are out and walking around), but they still needed feeding and basic care, and pokemons still needed to be treated for things like poison (like in the game if you tried to walk with a poisoned pokemon in between combat)

Dracorion · 06-13-2010, 12:13 PM

Well, there's gotta be a reason pokemon don't die even if they suffer massive injuries when they're put into a pokeball. "Oh dear! Tyranitar, your intestines are hanging out! Get inside the pokeball and you'll be fine until we get to the pokemon center!" You know, stasis. So you know, the absolutely safest option, moreso than Renny putting Mollesk in even more pain by using a super-effective move on it, buffs be damned, would be to just put it in the pokeball.

You assume a lot. Admittedly, it could have been a crit, but I think it's far more likely that Cerulean is a fucking cheater, don't you?

Hey AB, was Cerulean's attack on Mollesk a crit, and could you say which attacks are criticals from now on?

Astral Harmony · 06-13-2010, 02:35 PM

No, it wasn't a crit. Actually, blame that damn oil. Plasma would be far less effective if you weren't soaked in it. I can't really see Ceru using it again for the duration of this battle, so you shouldn't have to worry about further oil attacks.

Dracorion · 06-13-2010, 02:50 PM

So... Cerulean Wildfire is just a cheater, then.

Well Menarker, if you still insist in keeping Mollesk out, and when it gets ganged up on and downed you can expect me to never let you live it down, you might want to change your plan so that Rachel uses a Full Restore on it instead of attacking.

EDIT: You know, I forgot to add Trainer Attacks to my post. Oh well, we all know who they're targetting.

Astral Harmony · 06-13-2010, 03:42 PM

Right. Bosses are cheaters. Because they can do stuff that you cannot. Stop complaining about her cheating when you outnumber her 15 to 1. Of course they're going to have things that you simply aren't prepared for. A lot of boss fights, including enemies that you invented yourself like the Ginnungagap, are going to be like this. Many of these fights will be all about preparing as best as you can, seeing what they can do to you, then countering their strategy as best as you can.

If you think she's a cheating bitch now, just you wait.

Dracorion · 06-13-2010, 03:51 PM

Hey, I'm not complaining. I'm just sayin'.

"Cheating" is just a term I can use to encompass everything bosses can do is all.

And you know, I'm kinda worried that Ginnungagap isn't HAX enough. Then again...

06-13-2010, 10:12 AM	#21
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	I'm keeping Mollesk out. Everything else is fine, but there is little point to the buffs if he gets switched right back out. Plus, if he does get knocked out, he is another target for me to use Prosperous Gifts Max Revive on and thus give me rage for. (Doesn't help that you put Swampert to use Waterfall despite it being a contact move and that wall being up.) You're trying to kill my team off! __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL! Last edited by Menarker; 06-13-2010 at 10:20 AM.

06-13-2010, 11:53 AM	#22
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Me me me. Admittedly, I didn't know Waterfall is a contact move. In that case, have Swampert use Surf, targetting Mollesk, Wildfire and the wall. Although you know, if you hadn't pointed it out AB would probably not have noticed. But really, there's no point to keeping Mollesk out. I mean, you don't see anyone else sacrificing their pokemon in favor of getting Rage. And more importantly, how could Renny do a heartless thing like sacrificing one of his beloved pokemon? If ya want Rage, just have Rachel use a Rage Rocket on you, you big baby. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

06-13-2010, 12:01 PM	#23
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	You think I'd wanna risk my pokemons on AB just not noticing? As for the rage, that is out of character justification. Incharacter, Renny wouldn't want Mollesk to still be suffering and he's taking steps to treat him ASAP by washing it off. Plus, if the oil washes off Mollesk, he can Recover and still fight while having the buff bonus. __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

06-13-2010, 12:03 PM	#24
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	For all the good the buffs did him? In-character, pokemon are placed in stasis while in the pokeball I think or something AB said so Mollesk wouldn't be suffering from the flames. Plus, y'know, if it HAD to be ASAP Renny should just use a Full Restore on him then. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

06-13-2010, 12:07 PM	#25
Menarker OMG! WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW? Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3,802	I assume it was a crit, since those ignore buffed defense. Never heard anything like that from AB. I'm just pulling from the anime where pokeballs just help regulate their wellbeing for things like energy (less energy used than if they are out and walking around), but they still needed feeding and basic care, and pokemons still needed to be treated for things like poison (like in the game if you tried to walk with a poisoned pokemon in between combat) __________________ THE BIO OF RENNY TRESSERHORN THE BIOs OF POKEMON UMBRAL!

06-13-2010, 12:13 PM	#26
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Well, there's gotta be a reason pokemon don't die even if they suffer massive injuries when they're put into a pokeball. "Oh dear! Tyranitar, your intestines are hanging out! Get inside the pokeball and you'll be fine until we get to the pokemon center!" You know, stasis. So you know, the absolutely safest option, moreso than Renny putting Mollesk in even more pain by using a super-effective move on it, buffs be damned, would be to just put it in the pokeball. You assume a lot. Admittedly, it could have been a crit, but I think it's far more likely that Cerulean is a fucking cheater, don't you? Hey AB, was Cerulean's attack on Mollesk a crit, and could you say which attacks are criticals from now on? __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.

06-13-2010, 02:35 PM	#27
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	No, it wasn't a crit. Actually, blame that damn oil. Plasma would be far less effective if you weren't soaked in it. I can't really see Ceru using it again for the duration of this battle, so you shouldn't have to worry about further oil attacks.

06-13-2010, 02:50 PM	#28
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	So... Cerulean Wildfire is just a cheater, then. Well Menarker, if you still insist in keeping Mollesk out, and when it gets ganged up on and downed you can expect me to never let you live it down, you might want to change your plan so that Rachel uses a Full Restore on it instead of attacking. EDIT: You know, I forgot to add Trainer Attacks to my post. Oh well, we all know who they're targetting. __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away. Last edited by Dracorion; 06-13-2010 at 03:08 PM.

06-13-2010, 03:42 PM	#29
Astral Harmony Don't Hate Me 'Cause I'm Moe Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Harmonial Sanctum Posts: 6,798	Right. Bosses are cheaters. Because they can do stuff that you cannot. Stop complaining about her cheating when you outnumber her 15 to 1. Of course they're going to have things that you simply aren't prepared for. A lot of boss fights, including enemies that you invented yourself like the Ginnungagap, are going to be like this. Many of these fights will be all about preparing as best as you can, seeing what they can do to you, then countering their strategy as best as you can. If you think she's a cheating bitch now, just you wait. Last edited by Astral Harmony; 06-13-2010 at 03:45 PM.

06-13-2010, 03:51 PM	#30
Dracorion Moves Like Jagger, Kupo! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: To the south, a little to the left... Or to the right. Posts: 4,910	Hey, I'm not complaining. I'm just sayin'. "Cheating" is just a term I can use to encompass everything bosses can do is all. And you know, I'm kinda worried that Ginnungagap isn't HAX enough. Then again... __________________ Dracorion's dumbass color is Royal Blue. If you see that color, you better run the fuck away.