[WAR] so let's talk about this mosque in New York

[Fifthfiend]

Originally Posted by POS Industries

irregular shaving habits!

In fairness, I think we all hate the Amish.

[Fifthfiend]

and Barrelpants.

[Osterbaum]

Also, this is a good take on it.

That article is disgusting. I mean, I agree with the points he makes in general and it's great someone speaks out for, or atleast neutrally about, the not-mosque. And I'm sorry, but all the AMERICA GREATEST this and AMERICA SUPERFREELIBERTIESSS references make me want to throw up. So much so that I wanted to make a separate thread just to talk about that way before this thread.

[Professor Smarmiarty]

You won't be allowed to though Oster. Us non-Americans live under super-dictators who watch our every move and threads about America would be forbidden so we all don't want to suddenly flee there.

Originally Posted by Fifthfiend

and Barrelpants.

Right, I'm going to build some kind of stupid pretentious as fuck movie cinema/art gallery/cigar den right next to Wall St. That'll show you fuckers.

[Bob The Mercenary]

What makes this issue even more difficult is that it can't be very easily narrowed down to fringe right wing hysteria. Something like 70-75% of NYC residents are against it, and that city is heavily liberal. 65% of the entire country is against it's construction.

This is disgusting. Seriously, I don't think I've ever been so ashamed.Well, except for that one time...

[krogothwolf]

Originally Posted by Osterbaum

That article is disgusting. I mean, I agree with the points he makes in general and it's great someone speaks out for, or atleast neutrally about, the not-mosque. And I'm sorry, but all the AMERICA GREATEST this and AMERICA SUPERFREELIBERTIESSS references make me want to throw up. So much so that I wanted to make a separate thread just to talk about that way before this thread.

You do know Cracked is a joke site right?

[pochercoaster]

Originally Posted by RobinStarwing

First off, I am no racist or bigot.

I am both for and against this community center.

I am for it and not just that...lets setup so much land around Ground Zero with temples to every religion. Kind of like Liquid Snake's suggestion.

But I am also against because some of what you see as bigotry is actually still the fresh wounds of 9/11 that are bleeding and open. This is making us face them and yet I am reminded of something I heard said and it is the most logical and concise argument I've heard against the Park51 project.

So yes, I do support the project going forward if it does because it would be un-american not too due to this place will hopefully be used to promote peace and tolerance. At the same time though, I am against it because the wounds are still too fresh.

Freedom is a balancing act between knowing when you can do or say something and when it would be better not to do it or open your mouth.

Because showing that Americans can accept other religions won't help those wounds heal or anything. Because keeping people from practicing their religion is not divisive nor does it reinforce the whole "Americans are bigots and hate the middle east" stereotype that extremists want people to believe in order to engender conflict.

Edit: In case anyone missed it, that was sarcasm.

[krogothwolf]

The problem is to many American's think any Muslim is out to destroy America. They don't realize that the vast majority of Muslim's aren't the crazy extremists.

[pochercoaster]

My boss is muslim. My paycheques must be laced with anthrax!

[Ryanderman]

The guy sitting at the desk next to mine is Muslim. Care to guess what he talks about all day?

His kids! And how cute they are!

Also, the cruel irony of him getting voted employee of the month, and recieving the free lunch coupons from the cafeteria that go with it during Ramadan.

Dastardly!