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Lumenskir · 05-23-2011, 07:05 AM

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I'm pretty sure Bane's been Hispanic ever since he first appeared in the comics.

Ok, but Rhas Al Ghul was some immortal Asian guy in the comics and then got portrayed by Qui Gon Jinn; I was more interested in hearing if there had been any confirmation that Hardy would be tasked with playing someone Hispanic.

Also, did Joseph Gordon-Levitt's role ever get pinned down? I know the rumor mill said that he was supposed to be Falcone's son for awhile, but then it got 'confirmed' that he would be some cop under Gordon, except that it was theorized that the cop role was just a smokescreen to hide the surprise that he was actually going to be playing the Riddler, and that's around the time I decided to stop reading rumors for a movies that was a few years away. Anybody who is still keeping up have any more solid leads?

Magus · 05-23-2011, 04:13 PM

As far as I can remember he's confirmed to play just a police detective of some sort, the name isn't recognizable as any villain names, he is quite possibly just a police character with Gordon or something and nothing more. Nolan doesn't seem too interested in sticking a lot of the established Bat-characters into side roles, hell he changed Renee Montoya's name to Ramirez for no apparent reason, probably to avoid us knowing she would survive the film. Gordon-Levitt could be playing a Harvey Bullock character, he could be playing some new dude entirely unrelated, it would be impossible for the simple reason that if he is a well-known character Nolan/Goyer would have went out of his way to make sure we didn't know he was by changing the name of the character so we don't have any expectations about his story arc. It's kind of pointless since you can tell by the character's actions which story arcs they are following once you actually watch the movie, but I guess it helps with speculation before the fact...

As for Hardy playing Bane, I can't imagine Bane as being British. Lots of Latinos are Caucasian, I see no problem with Hardy just doing a slight accent or something (pretty much everything I've seen with a "speaking" Bane has had his accent be pretty slight, hardly noticeable...).

Or Bane could just be some white dude with an American accent in this one, depends on how Nolan is writing it. I don't see a lot of reason to give a character an American accent to avoid having a Latino character, Hardy would have to be doing an accent either way. There's not a lot of point to making the character not Latino.

As for Liam Neeson, it's hard to have a white dude play an Asian dude (plus people would probably say its racist in a John Wayne-as-Genghis-Khan kind of way), which Nolan bypassed by having R'as Al'Ghul just be a codename for whatever dude is the had of the League of Shadows at any particular time. Although then he went out of his way to get Ken Watanabe to play R'as Al'Ghul at the beginning...I think it was mainly about getting Liam Neeson into the movie somehow, just like having Tom Hardy play Bane is about getting Tom Hardy into the movie somehow, whatever the ramifications of the fact to the plot or universe or people's perceptions of the film.

Lumenskir · 05-23-2011, 04:32 PM

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As for Hardy playing Bane, I can't imagine Bane as being British...There's not a lot of point to making the character not Latino.

Except he's being played by an English guy.

I mean, I'm sure Nolan is changing up the backstory anyways, but is Bane required to be Latino like Static Shock is required to be black, otherwise the character just doesn't make any sense? Or is it more like Green Lantern where you just need to get the magic feather (ring/Venom) in play no matter what the background?

Magus · 05-23-2011, 07:23 PM

Hmm, well the current backstory requires him to be Latino because of where he's from but if you're just like "guy's in jail someplace else" then he doesn't have to be. But I don't see Nolan having a British Bane ever, if he weren't Latino he'd basically just be stuck with Caucasian American which is a pointlesschange, since either way it's an accent change. I don't think it's harder for a Brit to do a Latin accent than an American accent (I'm only doing this on the basis that it's no harder for me to do a British accent than a Latin accent and I'm just some dude, not a trained actor who is probably skilled at good accents of various types!).

I mean Batman fighting a British Bane in Gotham City would be the most hilarious thing ever, I guess he could try it. It just doesn't seem to suit the character, is all I'm saying, so if there's an accent change for the actor might as well stick to the source material.

Lumenskir · 05-23-2011, 07:52 PM

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I mean Batman fighting a British Bane in Gotham City would be the most hilarious thing ever

Choose from one of the following options: Would it be -

1) More hilarious than Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham
2) Equally as hilarious as Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham
3) Less hilarious than Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham

??

Meister · 05-24-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Magus

Maybe he has liquid cannisters in that mask and he like...drinks it.

akaSM · 05-24-2011, 11:41 AM

You know, about the "is venom a gas or a liquid?" thing, it could actually be both, sort of. Maybe it works like some anesthetics (isofluorane, sevofluorane (sp?)). You store them as liquids in the anesthetics machine, where they become a gas so that the patient can inhale them.

Magus · 05-24-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lumenskir

Choose from one of the following options: Would it be -

1) More hilarious than Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham
2) Equally as hilarious as Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham
3) Less hilarious than Batman fighting an Irish Ras Al Ghul in Gotham

??

Less hilarious! Neeson should've had a major Irish brogue in that movie, I would've been in stitches. But he decided to do an American accent like all the other British actors in Hollywood movies that aren't Hugh Grant.

The Sevenshot Kid · 07-12-2011, 12:33 AM

New teaser poster!

Large image.

No clue if this is supposed to give an indication of the plot but I really hope it isn't cause No Man's Land was bad enough the first time around.

Shyria Dracnoir · 07-12-2011, 01:28 AM

Rocks fall, everyone dies?

05-23-2011, 04:13 PM	#22
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	As far as I can remember he's confirmed to play just a police detective of some sort, the name isn't recognizable as any villain names, he is quite possibly just a police character with Gordon or something and nothing more. Nolan doesn't seem too interested in sticking a lot of the established Bat-characters into side roles, hell he changed Renee Montoya's name to Ramirez for no apparent reason, probably to avoid us knowing she would survive the film. Gordon-Levitt could be playing a Harvey Bullock character, he could be playing some new dude entirely unrelated, it would be impossible for the simple reason that if he is a well-known character Nolan/Goyer would have went out of his way to make sure we didn't know he was by changing the name of the character so we don't have any expectations about his story arc. It's kind of pointless since you can tell by the character's actions which story arcs they are following once you actually watch the movie, but I guess it helps with speculation before the fact... As for Hardy playing Bane, I can't imagine Bane as being British. Lots of Latinos are Caucasian, I see no problem with Hardy just doing a slight accent or something (pretty much everything I've seen with a "speaking" Bane has had his accent be pretty slight, hardly noticeable...). Or Bane could just be some white dude with an American accent in this one, depends on how Nolan is writing it. I don't see a lot of reason to give a character an American accent to avoid having a Latino character, Hardy would have to be doing an accent either way. There's not a lot of point to making the character not Latino. As for Liam Neeson, it's hard to have a white dude play an Asian dude (plus people would probably say its racist in a John Wayne-as-Genghis-Khan kind of way), which Nolan bypassed by having R'as Al'Ghul just be a codename for whatever dude is the had of the League of Shadows at any particular time. Although then he went out of his way to get Ken Watanabe to play R'as Al'Ghul at the beginning...I think it was mainly about getting Liam Neeson into the movie somehow, just like having Tom Hardy play Bane is about getting Tom Hardy into the movie somehow, whatever the ramifications of the fact to the plot or universe or people's perceptions of the film. __________________ The Valiant Review

05-23-2011, 07:23 PM	#24
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Hmm, well the current backstory requires him to be Latino because of where he's from but if you're just like "guy's in jail someplace else" then he doesn't have to be. But I don't see Nolan having a British Bane ever, if he weren't Latino he'd basically just be stuck with Caucasian American which is a pointlesschange, since either way it's an accent change. I don't think it's harder for a Brit to do a Latin accent than an American accent (I'm only doing this on the basis that it's no harder for me to do a British accent than a Latin accent and I'm just some dude, not a trained actor who is probably skilled at good accents of various types!). I mean Batman fighting a British Bane in Gotham City would be the most hilarious thing ever, I guess he could try it. It just doesn't seem to suit the character, is all I'm saying, so if there's an accent change for the actor might as well stick to the source material. __________________ The Valiant Review

07-12-2011, 01:28 AM	#30
Shyria Dracnoir Kawaii-ju Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Monster Island Posts: 4,240	Rocks fall, everyone dies? __________________ Godzilla vs. Gamera (1994)

07-12-2011, 12:33 AM	#29
The Sevenshot Kid of Northwest Arizona Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 1,492	New teaser poster! Large image. No clue if this is supposed to give an indication of the plot but I really hope it isn't cause No Man's Land was bad enough the first time around.