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Unread 09-28-2011, 08:05 PM   #21
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Well, not to sound like a perv... but what really got me was the second panel, it kind of looked like something from a prono.

Also I agree, the horns look a bit... off...

*edit* it'll likely grow on me, just threw me off a bit at first. I had gotten too used to the manga style of kit.

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Unread 09-28-2011, 08:07 PM   #22
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Eh, I'll adjust. As you say, I'm here for the world and the story. It's none of my business if Kit likes Botox.
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Unread 09-28-2011, 08:23 PM   #23
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Really the horns bug me more than the lips. I'll deal though.
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Unread 09-28-2011, 09:07 PM   #24
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I'm fine with the lips. They do make her look a lot older and more mature (which is at odds with her overall "kiddish" personality so far) but my main point of contention is the horns, or rather, how they affect her hair.

Old art style, they didn't. It was like she was wearing them overtop of the hair. Admittedly, the new style is more realistic. But if you look at the comparison between old and new, the fact that the hair below the horns is suddenly missing makes it look like she shaved that part directly off. It creates a weird pseudo-punk look that I'm not sure I'm a fan of.

The change in art styles between, say, Page 49 and Page 62 is particularly striking because less than 5 minutes have passed in-comic (I estimate), but Kit looks like she's aged at least a decade between her lips and bald spots.

So, to summarize/clarify, I am totally fine with the new art style, but I feel that it seems out-of-place at this particular point in the story. She looks like a different character now. To use Firefly characters as an example, I read Page 49 Kit as Kaylee, and I read Page 62 Kit as Zoe. It just feels a little uncomfortable.

EDIT: And yes, that was my reasoning for the "fat" comment. It's not over till the fat lady sings, and if every gunfight is like a song in itself, then Liz just "sang", and now it's over. So the fat lady sang to end it. Subtle.

...That line still feels a little odd for Kit to be saying, though...?
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Unread 09-28-2011, 09:46 PM   #25
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I thought it was a guest artist at first until I saw that Boozloaf looks the same. It's not bad, she looks more feminine now, but the horns are now a tad odd to me.
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Unread 09-29-2011, 05:47 AM   #26
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...That line still feels a little odd for Kit to be saying, though...?
I was trying to imply that Kit is such a pro w/ gunfights that she can tell what happens and she doesn't even have to see it. Rate of fire + different guns + a combatant she knows (Liz) = Kit's deduction.

There will be more on that, and her "every gunfight is like a song all itself" quote later (that's the plan anyway).
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Unread 09-29-2011, 06:01 AM   #27
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What caused the art shift?

A wizard did it.

It's as good a canonical answer as any.
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Unread 09-29-2011, 07:30 AM   #28
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Maybe it's just me, but when the majority are saying they don't like it and the best thing the minority can say is "I'll adjust I guess," it's probably worth it to re-examine whether or not "it's better".

I'm not trying to dog on you or anything, I'm just telling you which way the wind's blowing. In all things, people are getting tired of 'same'. The new Catwoman and Red Hood comics and the outcry they generated should give you a clue. Google it.

Anyway, like you give a crap about my opinion, but for my money Kit looked a lot better before she got her lip-puff-and-horn-lift treatments. She looked unique before. Now she looks more 'typical'.
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Unread 09-29-2011, 07:51 AM   #29
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Whoa, whoa, whoa... little harsh there, LoF. To be honest, from what I can tell, he DOES care about our opinions to an extent. Matt is very active in the forum in regard to his comic works, and regularly asks for input regarding various things. The fact that he does these things and has various forum lurkers helping him on this or that aspect of his comic gives me the impression that he does value the opinions of his readers.

That said, it seems he does want to move away from the manga-ish art style of his previous posts. A pity, IMHO, but then I'm a huge fan of that particular art style. However, an artist will typically do what pleases them, the opinions of others is an afterthought. Were this not the case, we'd have no Picassos.
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Unread 09-29-2011, 08:04 AM   #30
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I care about opinions to an extent, but this is one of those things where I'm going with my gut on. I suppose if this wasn't a free comic I'd be more likely to listen to everyone, but it's still hard to say. After all, is this really the "majority"? I have had a number of other people say they really like it, including some people who I highly respect on an artistic level, they just haven't voiced an opinion on this forum. I wish they would, but what're you gonna do?

I want to do it this way for more than just "what's popular". The manga style was no longer me. I don't like anime anymore, and I don't read manga like I used to. I don't think I should be drawing in a style I'm not that into.

Anyway, this is the last time I'm going to address any criticisms about the art shift. Feel free to argue about it amongst yourselves tho. I'm just tired of trying to sell it to people who aren't buying it, and I don't feel I need to justify it over and over again. It's this way from now on. If you don't like the art and don't wanna read the comic because of it, I'm afraid you'll just have to move on. A pity, but that's how it is.
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