Planetary Resources; grab your pickaxe and look to the sky! - Page 3

Sithdarth · 04-25-2012, 05:45 PM

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Isn't the moon concentration of He3 like ppb or something equally ridiculous. Like it has heaps of it but its all so dilute it'd be a pretty mega operation to get it back.
Surely the cheapest shit would be to give all the stupid space money to people making renewables on earth to make that better and to make lots of them.

shiney already pointed out the inherent problems there. Basically it comes down to the moneyed special interests groups have to much of a strangle hold on American politics for any real change to ever happen. There are currently fully functional wind farms sitting idle because they are not allowed to sell their electricity. Its much easier to side step all that bull and sneak in the back door with something that at first glance looks like it has nothing to do with energy.

Also, He3 would be great for base load power and we get space travel and kickass lunar bases out of the deal. Not to mention space flight has been one of the greatest impetuses for invention known to man. Solving the technical problems of space flight is almost as good at advancing technology and helping the economy as fighting a world war.

Professor Smarmiarty · 04-25-2012, 05:49 PM

But I mean clearly the solution isn't to do whatever the monied interests want.

Sithdarth · 04-25-2012, 05:54 PM

Since is when is sneaking around behind the backs of someone doing what they want? I mean if it is then like my parents owe me an apology and maybe some money.

Professor Smarmiarty · 04-25-2012, 06:03 PM

But space investment helps them out. It's like sneaking around your mom's back to put money in their wallet.

Sithdarth · 04-25-2012, 06:50 PM

How does space exploration in anyway help big oil and coal (the specific monied interest with an interest in stopping alternative energy)? Well in anyway more than it helps the economy and people in a very general sense?

Professor Smarmiarty · 04-25-2012, 06:53 PM

It helps them continue to exploit us because a fuctioning space fuel economy is a long way off.

Sithdarth · 04-25-2012, 07:30 PM

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It helps them continue to exploit us because a fuctioning space fuel economy is a long way off.

But how do you know it'll take a shorter amount of time to enact the required change in the way you purpose? In fact how do you know it is even possible to enact the required change in the way you purpose? It could in fact be an even bigger waste of money trying to work within the system when it isn't even possible.

Bells · 04-25-2012, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gregness

Sif obviously missed the point of the Neil DeGrasse Tyson thread.

which begs the question... why isn't he in on this one?

He focus so much of his energy on trying to encourage the government to do this stuff, and then a bunch of ultra-rich guys go on and say they wanna do it TWICE as much... seems like Dr Tyson would be the perfect fit for such a project, SPECIALLY in the "This is where the funding needs to go first" department.

EDIT: Oh, never mind. Here is his take on this

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/201...ionaires-video

tacticslion · 04-25-2012, 08:45 PM

Two links because they're vaguely related in a long-term sense (as in "the economics of space travel and trade").

Slightly relevant for the future. (Mostly game-theory, if I recall.)

More relevant for the future. (More real-world economics applied to space travel, if I recall.)

Both a long way off from being terribly relevant, but they both are related to the ultimate (very-long-term) goal of this!

Azisien · 04-25-2012, 09:01 PM

Billionaires are gonna spend billions to go into space and catch rocks. Who the fuck are you to say otherwise? Huh?

Huh?

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tacticslion Regulator Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,842	Just because I want to. Two links because they're vaguely related in a long-term sense (as in "the economics of space travel and trade"). Slightly relevant for the future. (Mostly game-theory, if I recall.) More relevant for the future. (More real-world economics applied to space travel, if I recall.) Both a long way off from being terribly relevant, but they both are related to the ultimate (very-long-term) goal of this! __________________ Make the best decision ever. I look forward to seeing you there! You should watch this trailer! It's awesome! (The rest of the site's really cool, too!) I have a small announcement to make. And another! Last edited by tacticslion; 04-25-2012 at 08:57 PM. Reason: "

04-25-2012, 05:49 PM	#22
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	But I mean clearly the solution isn't to do whatever the monied interests want.

04-25-2012, 05:54 PM	#23
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	Since is when is sneaking around behind the backs of someone doing what they want? I mean if it is then like my parents owe me an apology and maybe some money.

04-25-2012, 06:03 PM	#24
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	But space investment helps them out. It's like sneaking around your mom's back to put money in their wallet.

04-25-2012, 06:50 PM	#25
Sithdarth Friendly Neighborhood Quantum Hobo Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Outside the M-brane look'n in Posts: 5,403	How does space exploration in anyway help big oil and coal (the specific monied interest with an interest in stopping alternative energy)? Well in anyway more than it helps the economy and people in a very general sense?

04-25-2012, 06:53 PM	#26
Professor Smarmiarty Sent to the cornfield Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: K-space Posts: 9,758	It helps them continue to exploit us because a fuctioning space fuel economy is a long way off.

04-25-2012, 09:01 PM	#30
Azisien wat Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,177	Billionaires are gonna spend billions to go into space and catch rocks. Who the fuck are you to say otherwise? Huh? Huh?