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That's so PC of you
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My concern is that Nintendo is going simplist on GBA, DS and Wii... maybe TOO SIMPLISTIC...
Dont get me wrong... there are times where all we need is a little Tetris and Pong... but there are times where we need our Half Life's, Killzone, Oblivion's and such... The wii is more like a console for people who wants more than 1 console... unless you dont care about franchises or brandings AT ALL, the wii wont satisfy you... There are a few games that i totally see on the Wii... really.. playing something like Civilization or Age of Empires using that Wiimote just sounds appealing! KOTOR series would be nice too... but its not just abotu graphics... the Wii has a low processing power compared to the other 2 around... it cant simply compete head to head... thats why its on a class of its own... The Ps3 and Xbox 360 can run ANY game the Wii can make... but from those, something else is expected... i really do belive that aside from the amazing Graphics, there is a lot more deepness on the power behind the PS3... a cool library, a nice array of games... and i do belive that the Wii is something else that i would like to play with when im tired of the "Mainstream" titles... but i dont see much more than this... TGS is coming.. nintendo wont be there... sony usually "runs" that show... so lets see what's up! |
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07-23-2006, 03:42 AM
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@ Silver Rose: Well any of the trailers that you see of people using the Wiimote are mostly over exaggerated (specially the Metroid Prime one).
Most (if not all of the actions) can be done with a simple twist of the wrist. Moreover, I'm sure that there will be some sort of configuration settings that you can changeon the sensor.
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07-23-2006, 02:55 PM
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We are Geth.
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No, I mean, seriously...what in the world are you talking about? I just don't understand you. You're saying that the Wii is a console you'd play when you tire of mainstream games...but that's all? Isn't that the point behind the Wii? Don't we have enough of our Oblivion 2s and Killzone 2s and Halo 2s and Soul Calibur 2s? What do you mean, "But I don't see much more than this"? Look, I understand that you want a generic first person shooter sometimes. I know that a simple fighting game is all that you really want to play at times. But I don't see how this is a 'fault' of the Wii, which will have standard controllers, possibly even the Gamecube ones. So long as it is a console, it will have generic games. Yes, they won't be as pretty as the PS3, but I fail to see how that really 'takes away' from exactly how fun the game would be. And, honestly, the processing power that the PS3 flaunts just makes it a little smoother to play these aforementioned games. I don't think I'd see a difference if Nintendo made their games a little less shiny. (personal opinion, feel free to disagree)
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07-23-2006, 04:00 PM
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Does anyone know anything about FFCC2: Crystal Bearers? Specifically, will multiplayer require a DS? I know, it seems like it would, but honestly, the only thing on the GBA for FFCC1 was a map (and I'd add that to the pause screen), your secret objective (and they could change their level up system to take this factor out), and arranging your commands. I see no reason why you can't play using the Wiimote as a standard controller (A- Attack/Confirm, B- Magic, X- Item, Y- Run/Cancel), and you wave it around to access your command list (press start so your character follows the party, and flick the Wiimote left and right to access Magic or items; then flick it up and down to set a different item or magic spell to the command list so that pressing B will activate that spell and pressing X will activate that item). I can see FFCC without the handheld peripheral, but it would be logical that "Potatomoto" would make us use DSes.
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07-23-2006, 04:42 PM
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That's so PC of you
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http://gameboy.ign.com/articles/720/720397p1.html ITs just seens to be the Main idea for the first party support on nintendo... not just on the Wii... but all around at nintendo! Sure... 3rd party is a whole new story... but if we focus on 1rs party, Nintendo is aiming for simplicity, cheaper, quick, non-ambitious designs... they are just pretty much taking simple ideas and Boosting the Fun Factor in it... wich is great! But its not like Nintendo "cant" compete with sony or microsoft... its more like they dont even want to try! They want to focus on a Group that the PS3 and XBOX arent really caring about... Sure, the Wii can have its Red Steel, or Metroid Prime... but its not like those games were made to compete against Rainbow Six, Splinter Cell, or even halo... (Well... maybe Halo) What i see on the Wii its a Consoel that gives a Buttload of fun little neat new ideas, and a half-handfull of Nice Games to please the basic desires of hardcore gamers... which is really Neat... For a console thats going to be owned by "everyone". Mostly, those people who would want the Wii AND another Next-gen console at their homes... What im saying is that so far, unless you're a really casual gamer, or someone who isnt attracted by any expecific Franchises, Having only The Wii, isnt going to get you 100% satisfied compared with what the other 2 Consoles are offering... |
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Ok so the Wii isn't going to have the super advanced graphics that the PS3 and 360 have. But I'm a man who plays Oblivion, Quake 4, Doom 3, etc at the Lowest Settings and has a great time. And since the Wii still has a standard controller I see no problem, with lower graphics games being ported, except for you know all that contracting and liscensing stuff. Quote:
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07-23-2006, 08:15 PM
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I have all three of the old-gen concoles allready. I'm a vg whore. <<
So yea, getting Wii and PS3. No extremities for me!  Other than that, there's little for me to discuss, since I'm pretty convinced on what's the right thing to do here.
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You're trying to tell me that the Wii is targeting families, who are going to buy a PS3 as well. Which, well, I don't think is true, considering how the entire idea behind the Wiimote is the ability for any dummy to pick up a remote and change channels and, thus, have the transition from TV to game be smoother. And, to be honest, not being 100% satisfied with a single console just isn't going to happen. If you buy a Wii, you're missing out on Metal Gear Solid, Devil May Cry, and the plethora of Sony exclusives, as well as Halo 3, Dead or Alive 4, Dead Rising, and other such games that are only 360. So, saying that the Wii isn't going to fill your gaming needs alone is just ridiculous, because no console since the NES worked like that. So, no, I still don't understand your point, because you're saying that the Wii is going to be original and unique, and that originality and uniqueness is just not worth it, because the tried-and-true games we've all played are the only games worth owning, and they aren't offered to the Wii like they are to the extent of the PS3. And, well, lots of people don't care. I'm not saying that the PS3 isn't a worthy investment. I'm also not saying that the Wii is the only way to fly. This is just an exchange of ideas, and I'm arguing my point home. But I'm honestly getting tired of the entire console war scene...I think I've fought for my opinion plenty, and it's pretty obvious that I don't think that the PS3 is a worthy of my money, yet. EDIT: I'm not actually passionate about defending my Wii. ("It's not small, damn it!") I'm just seeing holes in Bellsouth's logic and I'm not going to let this turn into a brawl between him and Hx. Anyway. an interesting write up on the PS3. I still think that Sony swiped the idea, since Sony officials all claimed it was tacked on at the last minute.
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07-24-2006, 12:26 PM
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That's so PC of you
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I Guess you can see my point more on the margin of going against those people that actually compare the consoles... not quite 100% here, but seen pretty much everywhere else...
If you compare them, nobody wins... the wii has a lot of good points and losses in lots of areas, when compared against the PS3 or Xbox I guess im just tired of all the Sony bashing... comparing the Wii and PS3 its kinda Like comparing a Motorcycle (Being the Wii) and a Car (Being the Ps3)... sure, the car can Go faster, its more expensive, has more room for people and all that... but you cant really compare then, even though they are both major city vehicles... nobody can point out and say "car's are better! Bikes sux!" , that would be stupid... i'm just putting that logic into console comparisson And mind you, that, just because Nintendo is trying to lure in all the non-gamers and casual gamers into their concept... it dosent mean its going to happen... maybe Nintendo's 1st party games can do the trick, but, if during the first year of the console's life, the 3rd party support dosent kick in nicely, the mess coudl be big... if i just focus in one single common ground of all new consoles (lets say: Free Wireless Multiplayer) everything is still misty... i dont know if this service is going to work, or even work outside of the US/Japan... for any of them! So, its nto so much as Bitching about the new consoles... i'm just really tired of all the Sony Bashing and Nintendo prazing... when in fact, right now, anybody can become the "next gen underdog/bitch" ... |
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