John Dies at the End Mafia - Page 33

Moogle0119 · 08-28-2008, 08:02 PM

Hmm I hadn't noticed Demonlink had claimed to be psychologist'd the same night as me, otherwise I would have said he was a flat out liar earlier. Not unless there's multiple psychologists running around or Ape Boy could do it to more than one person a night (not likely). Also let's say I am lying about my win condition and it is for the gossiper group to make up half the town, what the hell does it matter when I can't help out anymore because I got psychologist'd? Even if I could still do it, are you really that concerned with me becoming a majority in the town when there are no confirmed dead mafiates yet?

As I already said I'm going to place my vote exactly where B_real wants it since he is the only confirmed townie (even if he did out me and Ecurt). We were never playing against the town or anyone for that matter. We were more concerned with just getting our investigations done and fulfilling our win condition.

bananarama · 08-28-2008, 08:03 PM

I dunno... I'd like to think that the death of the CL means there's no more cult mainly because as Cati points out, if Demonlink was lying, then town would have little role in this game beyond helping either mafia or cult win the game... also if there's still cultees running around let's at least hope that Fenris deleted one of them... Goddammit now I wish Ape Boy had roleclaimed before he died and told whose brains did he fuck with

EDIT: Just a thought, but how could Demonlink have known what the Psychologist role did? It's clear that he didn't induct Ape Boy and Demonlink was the first one to reveal what the Psychologist does if I'm not mistaken...

Cati · 08-28-2008, 08:20 PM

Psychologist is, well, not a common role in mafia, but it's not a made-up role or anything. While there are some variations, I don't think coming to the conclusion that psychologist = stops cult leader from culting is a far stretch... but still, good point!

Cephrir · 08-28-2008, 08:56 PM

I'm pretty sure it was in Themeless I or II if I recall correctly.

bananarama · 08-28-2008, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cephrir

I'm pretty sure it was in Themeless I or II if I recall correctly.

Oh you're right, although Demonlink wasn't playing in Themeless II he could have found out what Psychologist did if he wanted too.

Demetrius · 08-28-2008, 09:40 PM

So where does all of this leave us?

Cephrir · 08-28-2008, 09:52 PM

Same place, except now there might be cultists.

P-Sleazy · 08-30-2008, 09:43 AM

And we're still without a lynch for the day.

Cati · 08-30-2008, 10:08 PM

Okay, suspects. Let me know if I missed anyone and/or anything.

1. Moogle -- Already explained why.
2. Rokrin -- Voted near end of Moogle bandwagon.
3. Masked Jedi -- Same as Rokrin.
4. Demetrius -- Mentioned before by Ecurt about him killing Tophat "with a group of people" or something. Personally, I'm guessing he's either the vigilante or the SK (with the other one deleted Day One) unless I'm missing something.

My thoughts:

Probably shouldn't go after Moogle for balance reasons, in case we do have mafia / cult thing. Unless Moogle is cult? Er. I've gotten a ridiculous headache about that here.

Rokrin and Masked Jedi -- no idea what I'm thinking here. It is possible that it was a mafia bandwagon? Well, yes, but I'm not sure what's feeling more likely here. I'm going to have to read over it again a couple times, but it still probably won't help, heh.

As for Demetrius -- Ecurt's thing does make him sound mafia-ish, but I'm having trouble believing that Fenris could have gotten both a vigilante AND the serial killer. Or something like that, my brain is a bit uncaffienated now so I don't completely remember why I came to the conclusion of vigilante or SK, but in any case... That's also a case of not voting him because of balance. If he's a vigilante, he's town and that would really suck, and if he's a SK, well, he can't do anything TO us but he does fill out the numbers against mafia and maybe-cult.

Anything anyone wants to add?

P-Sleazy · 08-30-2008, 11:18 PM

I'm thinking we may have to take a leap of faith on this today guys.

VOTE: RORKIN

08-28-2008, 08:02 PM	#321
Moogle0119 The REAL Lord of the Dance Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Narshe Caves Posts: 397	Hmm I hadn't noticed Demonlink had claimed to be psychologist'd the same night as me, otherwise I would have said he was a flat out liar earlier. Not unless there's multiple psychologists running around or Ape Boy could do it to more than one person a night (not likely). Also let's say I am lying about my win condition and it is for the gossiper group to make up half the town, what the hell does it matter when I can't help out anymore because I got psychologist'd? Even if I could still do it, are you really that concerned with me becoming a majority in the town when there are no confirmed dead mafiates yet? As I already said I'm going to place my vote exactly where B_real wants it since he is the only confirmed townie (even if he did out me and Ecurt). We were never playing against the town or anyone for that matter. We were more concerned with just getting our investigations done and fulfilling our win condition. __________________ One day the tides will turn One day the fields will burn One day the seas will churn The fury of our maker's hand What will you do?

08-28-2008, 08:03 PM	#322
bananarama Old Gregg Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,189	I dunno... I'd like to think that the death of the CL means there's no more cult mainly because as Cati points out, if Demonlink was lying, then town would have little role in this game beyond helping either mafia or cult win the game... also if there's still cultees running around let's at least hope that Fenris deleted one of them... Goddammit now I wish Ape Boy had roleclaimed before he died and told whose brains did he fuck with EDIT: Just a thought, but how could Demonlink have known what the Psychologist role did? It's clear that he didn't induct Ape Boy and Demonlink was the first one to reveal what the Psychologist does if I'm not mistaken... Last edited by bananarama; 08-28-2008 at 08:10 PM.

08-28-2008, 08:20 PM	#323
Cati Hoopy Frood Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 147	Psychologist is, well, not a common role in mafia, but it's not a made-up role or anything. While there are some variations, I don't think coming to the conclusion that psychologist = stops cult leader from culting is a far stretch... but still, good point! __________________ - Cati

08-28-2008, 08:56 PM	#324
Cephrir With no _s! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the wild. Posts: 24	I'm pretty sure it was in Themeless I or II if I recall correctly. __________________ :rmage: See, anytime you do anything, the_e is a one in twenty chance that you will c_itically fail.

08-28-2008, 09:40 PM	#326
Demetrius In need of a vacation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peoples Republic of Vermont Posts: 3,236	So where does all of this leave us? __________________ DFM, Demon seed of Hell who fuels its incredible power by butchering little girls and feeding on their innocence. Demetrius, Dark clown of the netherworld, a being of incalculable debauchery and a soulless, faceless evil as old as time itself. Zilla, The chick. ~DFM Wii bishie bishie kawaii baka! ~ Fifthfiend

08-28-2008, 09:52 PM	#327
Cephrir With no _s! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In the wild. Posts: 24	Same place, except now there might be cultists. __________________ :rmage: See, anytime you do anything, the_e is a one in twenty chance that you will c_itically fail.

08-30-2008, 09:43 AM	#328
P-Sleazy Can Summon Sparkles by Posing! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kinging it up! Posts: 2,339	And we're still without a lynch for the day. __________________ The King is your new master now. Totally returning for the Summer: a mafia Game: Sign ups HERE!

08-30-2008, 10:08 PM	#329
Cati Hoopy Frood Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 147	Okay, suspects. Let me know if I missed anyone and/or anything. 1. Moogle -- Already explained why. 2. Rokrin -- Voted near end of Moogle bandwagon. 3. Masked Jedi -- Same as Rokrin. 4. Demetrius -- Mentioned before by Ecurt about him killing Tophat "with a group of people" or something. Personally, I'm guessing he's either the vigilante or the SK (with the other one deleted Day One) unless I'm missing something. My thoughts: Probably shouldn't go after Moogle for balance reasons, in case we do have mafia / cult thing. Unless Moogle is cult? Er. I've gotten a ridiculous headache about that here. Rokrin and Masked Jedi -- no idea what I'm thinking here. It is possible that it was a mafia bandwagon? Well, yes, but I'm not sure what's feeling more likely here. I'm going to have to read over it again a couple times, but it still probably won't help, heh. As for Demetrius -- Ecurt's thing does make him sound mafia-ish, but I'm having trouble believing that Fenris could have gotten both a vigilante AND the serial killer. Or something like that, my brain is a bit uncaffienated now so I don't completely remember why I came to the conclusion of vigilante or SK, but in any case... That's also a case of not voting him because of balance. If he's a vigilante, he's town and that would really suck, and if he's a SK, well, he can't do anything TO us but he does fill out the numbers against mafia and maybe-cult. Anything anyone wants to add? __________________ - Cati

08-30-2008, 11:18 PM	#330
P-Sleazy Can Summon Sparkles by Posing! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kinging it up! Posts: 2,339	I'm thinking we may have to take a leap of faith on this today guys. VOTE: RORKIN __________________ The King is your new master now. Totally returning for the Summer: a mafia Game: Sign ups HERE!