The Beatles aren't that great. - Page 4

Mondt · 07-26-2008, 01:19 PM

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Almost all metalcore. You could play 10 second clips from 10 different metalcore bands with your eyes closed (as to not know the titles/bands playing) and I dare you to tell how each of them are distinct from the others. Because, more often than not, most of them DON'T have any distinct qualities. I imagine in the beginning when it first came around it was fresh but then 234,876,344,789,656 bands loved it, but refused to expand on it and just followed the formula. And it seems that any kid gets street cred as a "credible music fan" as long as they adore and worship all 10,000+ metalcore bands playing in their local area and can name off all the shows they've been to by each artist.

oh ho ho! A challenge! XD I'm not a huge fan of the genre because I do agree, it's overdone and a giant copy-fest, but I really only listen to Killswitch Engage from this genre, and since they're pegged with popularizing that particular copied sound, I don't feel so bad.

Verse: Screaming vocals, heavy riff
Chorus: Light chords every measure, clean vocals
Bridge: Breakdown, screaming vocals if vocals are there.

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I don't know how it is in other parts of the world, but for those of you who live in SW Ohio and want to be big in local band, just follow this formula: play blastbeats, down-tune your guitars and play palm-muted chugging triplets, if you play lead make sure you do sweeps, and be sure to throw in breakdowns in every song or so just to please the moshers. As for you singers, just be sure to scream in the same guttural tone as everyone else, sing about how much you wanna fight, and flex your muscles so we all know how tough you are.

Your area's bands suck.

I can pretty much see everything on that list work out actually, except the blast beats. God blast beats sound terrible. And good vocalists are hard to come by in any genre that includes screaming, so that's not just your area XD

Professor Smarmiarty · 07-26-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nique

I do understand the Beatles thing, but then again I have to go 'come on', I mean, THE Beatles? There is nothing not good about them except maybe when they let Ringo go lead too much or whatever.

Hey now, we all know that Ringo's technically proficient but rather staid drumming is all that keep the crazies in the rest of the band from going nuts and creating solely dissonant ramblings.

Solid Snake · 07-27-2008, 01:27 AM

I have this really weird habit of really liking one particular singer or band from a particular genre, and then really disliking the singer or band that's considered nearly identical to the one I really like. If a band or singer is continually compared to one of my favorites, I'll often get excited only to listen to their music and...not like it at all. And I'm totally capable of listening to their songs and realizing that the styles are very similar and all, but...yeah. I'm strange like that.

For example: I love Billy Joel but I dislike Elton John. How the hell do you explain that? Seriously, Billy Joel's one of my all-time favorites. I could listen to nearly any of his tunes. Elton John's compared to Joel all the time (and I'm pretty sure a majority might even rate the Brit as the better of the duo.) So how the hell is it possible for me to love Billy's "Italian Restaurant" but prove unable to withstand nearly any of Elton's tunes you'd dare play?

Sometimes this even applies to different covers of the same exact song. I really like OneRepublic's original version of "Apologize" but I'm not the least bit fond of Timbaland's version and it's nearly the exact same thing. But seriously, I listen to Timbaland's version and I just want to grab a shotgun and blow the brains out of the guy who keeps going "Hey, hey, hey" in the background as if he has absolutely nothing better to say.

Another example from a totally different genre (actually two different genres, as one version is country and the other is more techno: ) I love Rascal Flatt's version of "What Hurts the Most." I hate Cascada's version of "What Hurts the Most." The strange thing about this particular example is that I actually really like Cascada. "A Neverending Dream" is a song Cascada sings that I really enjoy. So why would I dislike her version of "What Hurts the Most?" Seriously?

Then there are some cases of songs that were originally intended to be sung by a person of one particular gender, but I vastly prefer the version sung by a person of the opposite gender. For example, Linda Eder sings such a phenomenal version of "Man of La Mancha" that I can't listen to any other variation of the theme. The problem is that this song is written from a male's perspective: (lyrics include: "I am Lord Don Quixote, the man of La Mancha.") And I like the one damned version of the song a female sings. Seriously?

Finally, there's always the intriguing case of the artist I absolutely despise with the exception of a single song of theirs that I really happen to somehow like. (And it's rarely ever the song they're actually famous for.) I'm not a fan of Santana's songs at all and actually garnered somewhat of a reputation among family and close friends for disliking him and then suddenly I heard "Into the Night" and it was like shit, I actually really like a single Santana song. So my iPod's actually full of single songs from artists I actually don't like. I'm not a Matchbox Twenty fan but I love "Unwell." I hate Madonna with a fiery passion, but love one single song of hers: "Like a Prayer." This makes absolutely no sense.

Finally, I can't commit to a single genre of music as my preferred style at all. My collection includes a little bit of techno, a little bit of classic rock, a little bit of country, a little bit of Weird Al's parodies, a little bit of videogame music, a little bit of movie soundtracks, a little bit of '90s dance, a little bit of Arabic pop, a little bit of Broadway-style vocalists, and the occasional Mozart or Bach. Pretty much everything but rap and heavy metal. Wait...scratch that...I do have at least one or two songs that might qualify as "metal."

Yeah I'm just fucked up when it comes to my music preferences.

**Satan's Onion** · 07-27-2008, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Smarty McBarrelpants

Hey now, we all know that Ringo's technically proficient but rather staid drumming is all that keep the crazies in the rest of the band from going nuts and creating solely dissonant ramblings.

Them's fighting words, good sir =P --George Harrison was a damned good guitarist, and kept his feet on the ground even when John went a little off the deep end with the allegedly avant-garde stuff ("Revolution No. 9" never did anything for me) and Paul started insisting on dozens of takes of each song.

Ringo Starr, from what I've heard, is very much a drummer's drummer--he does a bunch of little things with his backbeat that other drummers, to this day, haven't quite been able to replicate.

Mirai Gen · 07-27-2008, 01:42 AM

I could talk about how Black Eyed Peas sucks, but I mean, everyone knows that.

Suicidal Tendencies. Like, I really did listen to more than just That Song On Guitar Hero 2. I don't get it. The guitar work is amazing but I'm just not seeing the appeal.

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Finally, I can't commit to a single genre of music as my preferred style at all. My collection includes a little bit of techno, a little bit of classic rock, a little bit of country, a little bit of Weird Al's parodies, a little bit of videogame music, a little bit of movie soundtracks, a little bit of '90s dance, a little bit of Arabic pop, a little bit of Broadway-style vocalists, and the occasional Mozart or Bach. Pretty much everything but rap and heavy metal. Wait...scratch that...I do have at least one or two songs that might qualify as "metal."

Damn it, stop stealing my words. I'll file charges or something.

Lord of Joshelplex · 07-27-2008, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BraveFencer Shinryuu

Thank you! Finally, someone else besides me and my family who agree Pink Floyd aren't that good.

I hate them for the same reason I hate the Beatles. bunch of stoner hippies.

One band I absolutely do not like at all, that I know a lot do, is Led Zeppelin. I odnt know what it is really, but I just cant seem to like them at all. I try too, but I just cant.

Magus · 07-31-2008, 02:21 AM

I like Led Zeppelin because 1. I liked the songs/style and 2. Songs are immediately distinguishable from one another, which DOESN'T happen for every band, believe it or not. I mean, I could say that I like Blink 182 (I don't, but hypothetically), but unless I was some sort of hardcore fan I couldn't tell the difference between any of their songs. I'm not sure if hardcore fans can.

I'm not saying bands have to have songs that all sound radically different from one another but man, mix it up a little.

I hate this "band" (apparently called Norma Jean, whatever that means) and anybody else who sounds like them.

Can anyone explain to me what is the purpose behind this "music"? It sounds a little like Death Metal but all the Death Metal I've heard has a recognizable tune to it, and is also way cooler, and even though stuff is screamed you can understand it. I don't know what's going on with this "band".

Mondt · 07-31-2008, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Magus

I hate this "band" (apparently called Norma Jean, whatever that means) and anybody else who sounds like them.

Can anyone explain to me what is the purpose behind this "music"? It sounds a little like Death Metal but all the Death Metal I've heard has a recognizable tune to it, and is also way cooler, and even though stuff is screamed you can understand it. I don't know what's going on with this "band".

I'm no fan of Norma Jean but live performances of bands like this don't usually depict their music well. Lots of bands put on shows for for people to listen to less and to mosh to more. Either way, it's a style of music that's getting(has gotten) really popular which is made up of mostly breakdown and dissonant chords, changes tempo occasionally. The screaming just adds to the intensity. I'd say its mostly moshing music. For the hardcore kids.

But yeah, Norma Jean is mostly terrible if you ask me. Though, similar bands I can think of include The Devil Wears Prada and Bring Me The Horizon which are less sucky than Norma Jean in my opinion, though I'm not a fan. *shrug* It's pretty tough to hear any lyrics in screams anymore unless you've really developed an ear, and even then, for some bands (As I Lay Dying, Darkest Hour) you still have it look them up.

On death metal, well, I don't particularly know a lot about death metal, but the first thing that comes to my mind when someone says "death metal" is The Black Dahlia Murder, so yeah.

I understand where you're coming from, but I would just tell you to sotp listening to it unless you really really really really wanna run into lots of shit.

Though, it could be worse.

Or this, but that's just an abomination spawned from the depths of hell (and genre mashing). XD

Nique · 07-31-2008, 08:36 AM

Wow. I listened to all of those with a relatively opened mind, and got raped in the ear.

Cid Highwind · 07-31-2008, 04:03 PM

Like I've been saying before: What the hell are kids thinking these days? That shit doesnt sound good no matter HOW old you are, or HOW inexperienced you are with real music. And it cant even be called "new" rock. Its recycled music wth a downbeat tone, and then raped until it isnt good anymore.

And oh, dont get me started on dragonforce.

And... whatever happened to good singers? You know, the ones that actually sang, didnt whine or wail, or posess a nails-on-chalkboard pitch?

07-27-2008, 01:27 AM	#33
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	I have this really weird habit of really liking one particular singer or band from a particular genre, and then really disliking the singer or band that's considered nearly identical to the one I really like. If a band or singer is continually compared to one of my favorites, I'll often get excited only to listen to their music and...not like it at all. And I'm totally capable of listening to their songs and realizing that the styles are very similar and all, but...yeah. I'm strange like that. For example: I love Billy Joel but I dislike Elton John. How the hell do you explain that? Seriously, Billy Joel's one of my all-time favorites. I could listen to nearly any of his tunes. Elton John's compared to Joel all the time (and I'm pretty sure a majority might even rate the Brit as the better of the duo.) So how the hell is it possible for me to love Billy's "Italian Restaurant" but prove unable to withstand nearly any of Elton's tunes you'd dare play? Sometimes this even applies to different covers of the same exact song. I really like OneRepublic's original version of "Apologize" but I'm not the least bit fond of Timbaland's version and it's nearly the exact same thing. But seriously, I listen to Timbaland's version and I just want to grab a shotgun and blow the brains out of the guy who keeps going "Hey, hey, hey" in the background as if he has absolutely nothing better to say. Another example from a totally different genre (actually two different genres, as one version is country and the other is more techno: ) I love Rascal Flatt's version of "What Hurts the Most." I hate Cascada's version of "What Hurts the Most." The strange thing about this particular example is that I actually really like Cascada. "A Neverending Dream" is a song Cascada sings that I really enjoy. So why would I dislike her version of "What Hurts the Most?" Seriously? Then there are some cases of songs that were originally intended to be sung by a person of one particular gender, but I vastly prefer the version sung by a person of the opposite gender. For example, Linda Eder sings such a phenomenal version of "Man of La Mancha" that I can't listen to any other variation of the theme. The problem is that this song is written from a male's perspective: (lyrics include: "I am Lord Don Quixote, the man of La Mancha.") And I like the one damned version of the song a female sings. Seriously? Finally, there's always the intriguing case of the artist I absolutely despise with the exception of a single song of theirs that I really happen to somehow like. (And it's rarely ever the song they're actually famous for.) I'm not a fan of Santana's songs at all and actually garnered somewhat of a reputation among family and close friends for disliking him and then suddenly I heard "Into the Night" and it was like shit, I actually really like a single Santana song. So my iPod's actually full of single songs from artists I actually don't like. I'm not a Matchbox Twenty fan but I love "Unwell." I hate Madonna with a fiery passion, but love one single song of hers: "Like a Prayer." This makes absolutely no sense. Finally, I can't commit to a single genre of music as my preferred style at all. My collection includes a little bit of techno, a little bit of classic rock, a little bit of country, a little bit of Weird Al's parodies, a little bit of videogame music, a little bit of movie soundtracks, a little bit of '90s dance, a little bit of Arabic pop, a little bit of Broadway-style vocalists, and the occasional Mozart or Bach. Pretty much everything but rap and heavy metal. Wait...scratch that...I do have at least one or two songs that might qualify as "metal." Yeah I'm just fucked up when it comes to my music preferences. __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text.

07-31-2008, 02:21 AM	#37
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	I like Led Zeppelin because 1. I liked the songs/style and 2. Songs are immediately distinguishable from one another, which DOESN'T happen for every band, believe it or not. I mean, I could say that I like Blink 182 (I don't, but hypothetically), but unless I was some sort of hardcore fan I couldn't tell the difference between any of their songs. I'm not sure if hardcore fans can. I'm not saying bands have to have songs that all sound radically different from one another but man, mix it up a little. I hate this "band" (apparently called Norma Jean, whatever that means) and anybody else who sounds like them. Can anyone explain to me what is the purpose behind this "music"? It sounds a little like Death Metal but all the Death Metal I've heard has a recognizable tune to it, and is also way cooler, and even though stuff is screamed you can understand it. I don't know what's going on with this "band". __________________ The Valiant Review Last edited by Magus; 07-31-2008 at 02:24 AM.