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Unread 01-23-2006, 11:12 PM   #31
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I'm kind of curious... if Sony could make EVERY game backwards compatible from PS1 for the PS2, with a fraction of the money that Microsoft has available... why couldn't Microsoft do the same? The "Oh, I don't know... it's TECHNICAL" seems like a rather large load of shit to me.

Not that it matters, either way. I'm not a fan of any of the franchises the Xbox has, so I doubt I'll be buying any of their systems ever. Even if it could give me a visual blow job while playing every old xbox game ever, without the disks and for free.

...Just... curious.
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Unread 01-23-2006, 11:20 PM   #32
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I'm kind of curious... if Sony could make EVERY game backwards compatible from PS1 for the PS2, with a fraction of the money that Microsoft has available... why couldn't Microsoft do the same? The "Oh, I don't know... it's TECHNICAL" seems like a rather large load of shit to me.

Not that it matters, either way. I'm not a fan of any of the franchises the Xbox has, so I doubt I'll be buying any of their systems ever. Even if it could give me a visual blow job while playing every old xbox game ever, without the disks and for free.

...Just... curious.
As far as I understand it it's because the XBox's video card was NVidia and the new Xbox's card is ATI, which for one reason or another - patents and copyrighs and such, probably - they can't do on-hardware emulation the way the PS2 did.
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Unread 01-24-2006, 02:09 AM   #33
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As far as I understand it it's because the XBox's video card was NVidia and the new Xbox's card is ATI
Had they been forthright about that in the first place, or better yet, realized something like that might be a problem with fans who really really really want the backward compatibility feature, we wouldn't be in this mess now, would we?
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Unread 01-24-2006, 05:54 AM   #34
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I think Zeke has something to say on the subject.

But in all seriousness, I agree with Krylo. Something doesn't seem right with Microsoft, especially since they seem to forget - ever since the PS2/PS1, anyway - that backwards compatability is pretty much crucial.

And I'm with the interviewer when they say "At what point are you going to say, "Guys, get Splinter Cell working on the 360, okay?""

No matter what, it just takes a bit of programming. Get to it.

NOTE: this is in reference to other games, not just SC.
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Unread 01-25-2006, 08:46 PM   #35
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I'm kind of curious... if Sony could make EVERY game backwards compatible from PS1 for the PS2, with a fraction of the money that Microsoft has available... why couldn't Microsoft do the same? The "Oh, I don't know... it's TECHNICAL" seems like a rather large load of shit to me.

Not that it matters, either way. I'm not a fan of any of the franchises the Xbox has, so I doubt I'll be buying any of their systems ever. Even if it could give me a visual blow job while playing every old xbox game ever, without the disks and for free.

...Just... curious.
I thought the PS2 was backwards compatible with all PS1 games because the sound chip in the PS2 was actually the PS1's graphics processor. The DS uses the same principle. It contains the GBA's processor. I don't think the PS2 is fast enough to emulate the PS1 through software.
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Unread 01-26-2006, 01:27 AM   #36
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I thought the PS2 was backwards compatible with all PS1 games because the sound chip in the PS2 was actually the PS1's graphics processor.
The Playstation core processor itself was put into the Playstation 2 as its I/O Processor, thus naturally providing hardware backwards compatibility (essentially, both consoles are in the PS2, as instructions meant for the Playstation are offloaded to this processor). Using the original Playstation's graphics processor as a sound processor? I don't understand how you came to that conclusion, nor would that provide compatibility.
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Unread 01-26-2006, 02:21 AM   #37
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Synk is correct. The PS2 is, effectivly, THE playstation. It has the hardware capabilities to run both PSX and PS2 video games (with some very few limited exceptions, if memeory serves, and it may not). Also, since the Disc reader in the PS2 is DVD, it is also capable of reading CD, which are the respective playstation 2 and 1 formats.

What get's me is that the popularity of such a feature is mind-numbingly obvious. Since it was blatently disregarded despite that knowledge, (excepting 'Barbie's horse adventure', and the other 2/3 of a game that are 'backwards compatible'*), this means Microsoft basically just told X-Box fans; 'Go suck on it. You'll buy the 360 no matter what we do or do not put on it. We OWN you.'

And lo, the X-Box fanatics beheld their 'golden calf', the 360, and it came to pass. Tablets were broken, bearded men were outraged, and the almighty smote the fanatics with console fires, disc read errors, and removed his blessing of hard-drive memeory space from the people.
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Unread 01-28-2006, 03:11 PM   #38
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I know that I'm not buying a 360 anytime soon... for the moment, it's a 500 dollar Xbox with 3 or 4 games I don't really want.
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