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Unread 10-07-2009, 08:20 PM   #31
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I could have sworn Prostitution was the second oldest profession, behind espionage.
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We don't need legalization of prostitution. We need a complete, all-encompassing structural overhaul so people's dreams can actually line up with reality.
Perhaps, but that would take a lot of time, effort, and pixie dust regarding general good faith on Humanity's part.

Not that it wouldn't be possible. Just that it'd be a bit silly to go straight for that and do nothing else. Legalizing prostitution would be a good band-aid fix in the meantime, if nothing else.
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Unread 10-07-2009, 08:21 PM   #32
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I get that legalization would help prevent the abuse of prostitutes as well as change how people view the profession, but really, is there anyone who actually aspires to be a prostitute? I find it hard to believe that anyone would seriously choose letting strangers get their rocks off inside them for money as their life goal.

I see prostitution as just one particular example of a massive social problem; that is, the selling of one's own dignity just so you can get by. People shouldn't have to sacrifice their ideals and dreams just to eat. I want people to be able to go to work daily because they gain personal satisfaction and happiness from it, not because they have to do so to keep living.

We don't need legalization of prostitution. We need a complete, all-encompassing structural overhaul so people's dreams can actually line up with reality.

perhaps you're neglecting the fact that some people really like sex, enjoy being drooled over and would find a high paying, jet setting job as a call girl/boy to be quite fulfilling?

Just because your morals dictate it should be completely unfulfilling does not preclude the possibility of somebody else enjoying the occupation. There are people who love farming for example, but fuck if you'll ever see me anywhere near a cow/corn stalk/whatever the fuck there is on a farm.
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Unread 10-07-2009, 08:21 PM   #33
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Strangely enough I'm willing to bet that Republicans spend more money on porn than democrats.
There are already studies proving that this is indeed the case.
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Unread 10-07-2009, 08:38 PM   #34
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perhaps you're neglecting the fact that some people really like sex, enjoy being drooled over and would find a high paying, jet setting job as a call girl/boy to be quite fulfilling?
This is pretty much my dream job, assuming I get to crossdress. I mean, reviewing games is great and all, but you really can't compete with that.
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Unread 10-07-2009, 08:40 PM   #35
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This is pretty much my dream job, assuming I get to crossdress. I mean, reviewing games is great and all, but you really can't compete with that.

If you can maintain this desire after watching Midnight Cowboy, follow your dreams young man.
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Unread 10-07-2009, 09:19 PM   #36
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There's a notion from the article that most (not all) seem to be glossing over in their comments is:

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Scott told CBC News in interview there's a distinction between legalization and decriminalization.

"Legalization views prostitution as a vice that needs to be heavily contained and controlled whereas decriminalization sees prostitution as a legitimate and necessary business," she said.
As far as I understand, prostitution per se is already legal in Canada, therefore legalized.

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Unread 10-07-2009, 09:28 PM   #37
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I'm going to step in and say I really don't think comparing prostitution to porn is really fair, given that porn involves a lot of (really bad) acting, is generally not unsafe given that all parties know each other and are being monitored and probably have done and will again do the same work together, is also safe on a biological level given that STDs are not being passed around, and it probably pays a lot better.



On another note, prostitution is, at least in the US, defined as being paid for your time, so as long as you are employed, you are a whore. It's just a matter of whether you're a street whore being screwed in a literal sense or a corporate whore being screwed more figuratively.
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Unread 10-07-2009, 09:45 PM   #38
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Prostitution demeans sex, but by the way people are currently so up tight about it I think we could do with a good round of demeaning to allow humanity to grow up a bit, even if it is through questionable means.
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Unread 10-08-2009, 01:12 AM   #39
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I think the only problem with whoring comes from people thinking there is a problem. Like right now when I used the word "whoring", I bet you thought that's disrespectful to whores. Because "whore" is normally an insult. But what if we decide it isn't?

After all, the reason whores are looked down upon is because back in the day the only way for a man to ensure that his children were of his blood was to ensure his woman didn't sleep around. These days we have blood tests, not to mention women aren't property, and the only reason we continue to shame women who have sex too much is tradition.

Legalize it, regulate it, stop whores needing drugs to escape the self esteem issues forced on them, make pimping an obsolete profession, drag whoring into the light, wash the stains off, make it boring, everyone gets happy, maybe we even can demystify the whole puritanical repressive mess of sex a little bit. That's my suggestion.
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Unread 10-08-2009, 09:04 PM   #40
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As far as I understand, prostitution per se is already legal in Canada, therefore legalized.
As it stands, and as I think someone said, prostitution is legal in Canada but almost anything and everything involving conducting the "business" of prostitution is criminal. So it's like renting out movies and video games is legal, but you can't open Blockbusters. Or advertise the store you can't open. And for every occasional movie you do rent out some guy comes along, punches you in the face, ensures you do like, crack or something, and if you run to the police they're like "haha fuck you" and depending on the level of corruption "hey give me some free movies."


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find it sort of funny that people consider prostitution unprofessional. It is, after all, the oldest profession.

If we take a look at history, we'll see that there were indeed many prestigious schools for sexual professionals throughout the ages, the idea is hardly laughable or nonsensical, and considering the general sexual prowess of most people (which is to say, jackhammering away until you pass out or laying there as though you're imitating a wax statue) I don't think such an establishment would be without alumni.

Your prejudice is derived mainly from the puritanical roots of North American Society, but I suppose that's neither here nor there.

Prostitutes provide a service which people pay for, this in and of itself makes them "professionals" as they are purveyors of a profession. If society would regulate the industry and protect these professionals instead of sweeping them under the rug like human waste, perhaps the image would change.

Although, considering the illogical nature of most hardline American conservatism, I wouldn't hold my breath.
I disagree, for now. I wasn't really sure on the definition of a profession, if there is even an exact one, but I have always considered it different from just "a job." I work at a retail store, and I've worked in restaurant kitchens, and in corporate offices. I didn't consider any of them professions. Sorry, folks that apply, they're just jobs. I already outlined my "guess" at what a profession is, but another point I wanted to make was that just because there were "historical examples of schools" or what not for prostitution at one point, that wouldn't even make any prostitute a professional. It would only make those who had attended the school a professional, in these "many times throughout history."
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