Army officer kills 12 at Ft. Hood, TX

[Donomni]

Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

Beating one's head against the proverbial wall might be considered noble, but it's not going to garner much useful effect.

Especially if said wall tries to flatten you by trying to convince you that all Muslims will kill you when given the chance, Obama's some sort of really sneaky man, etc, etc...

My mom's a product of mass media and anecdotal emailsinsane fear-mongering religious chain letter mom-mails, with a dad(aka my Grandpa) that keeps calling blacks that N-word white people aren't allowed to use... bleh.

The sad truth is she works too much and has a divorce as well going on, so trying to understand that not everyone of a single religion are nutjobs isn't high on her priority list, even if she wanted to.

Anyways, on-topic: I've seen some people say these bases are the safest places to live in the world. Is it wrong I think that's not really true, considering all the soldiers(Of which quite a few are probably unstable), at the very least?

[Funka Genocide]

Strangely enough unstable soldiers are far more likely to cause harm to themselves than others. (either through substance abuse and subsequent addiction or actul self inflicted physical trauma or death.)

This is just a weird instance that doesn't indicate a trend. We should be more worried about our troops suicide rate than homicide rate, which is relatively low.

[Tev]

Originally Posted by Donomni

Anyways, on-topic: I've seen some people say these bases are the safest places to live in the world. Is it wrong I think that's not really true, considering all the soldiers(Of which quite a few are probably unstable), at the very least?

Well, ask yourself this: It's almost December. To date, this year, how many people do you think were killed or assaulted in your city? More than thirteen? This is being billed as the “worst killing on a US base…..ever.” More people were killed in my city this year for sure.

Needless to say, even with this, I’d feel safer on a military base than anywhere else.

[krogothwolf]

Originally Posted by Funka Genocide

Strangely enough unstable soldiers are far more likely to cause harm to themselves than others. (either through substance abuse and subsequent addiction or actul self inflicted physical trauma or death.)

This is just a weird instance that doesn't indicate a trend. We should be more worried about our troops suicide rate than homicide rate, which is relatively low.

I agree, but the news media doesn't report the troops suicides but just them killing or robbing people. Generally a soldier going off and killing like this is rare.

[The Sevenshot Kid]

This was really scary for me to hear about. I'm from a military family and the son of some family friends, practicly an older brother to me, is set to go back to Hood from the middle east in a few weeks. His mom, who has had a hard time with both her sons being deployed, was a little shaken.

[Donomni]

Originally Posted by Tev

Well, ask yourself this: It's almost December. To date, this year, how many people do you think were killed or assaulted in your city? More than thirteen? This is being billed as the “worst killing on a US base…..ever.” More people were killed in my city this year for sure.

Needless to say, even with this, I’d feel safer on a military base than anywhere else.

Point there, then. Chalk that up to the words worst and ever, and completely missing the fact a tragedy of sorts there would be simply local news that might interest the big media elsewhere(Or not, depending on the scale and gunner).

[01d55]

Gleen Greenwald points out that all of that nonsense you guys was exposed to was nonsense and predictably so.

[Pip Boy]

What was that?

[Bob The Mercenary]

Maybe not all of it was nonsense.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-h...ory?id=9030873

[bluestarultor]

Originally Posted by Bob the Mercenary

Maybe not all of it was nonsense.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fort-h...ory?id=9030873

Well, this is highly unfortunate. So much for progress.

I guess the question now is why they let the guy in and why the warning signs weren't heeded. If the guy was throwing up red flags, it should never have gotten to this point. The military is a pretty tight ship. I'm not saying the backlash I'm sure is going to happen is directly the military's fault, but it's incredibly damaging to the image of the government as a whole for this to slip through the cracks and get picked up by the media. You know conservatives are going to blame Obama for this one somehow, and probably snowball that into a front against any progress he tries to make.