Fullmetal Alchemist manga *Spoilers* - Page 4

Magus · 05-15-2010, 08:50 PM

Her killing that one general guy and dumping his body in the concrete way back when was epic enough.

Lithp · 05-16-2010, 12:48 AM

It really isn't though. That feels like it's serving to show us she's awesome so we're prepared for some awesome shit she does in the future. Take some other badasses:

Scar-He was originally established as a serial killer who could blow shit up with his hands. This was to lead to his fights with Kimblee & Wrath.

Mustang-Hero of the Ishbal War. Uses flame with a flick of his finger. Envy kills a certain someone. Mustang goes apeshit on Envy.

Hohenheim-We find out about his interesting past, which leads to him confronting the Big Cheese himself.

You get the point. Generally, you don't kill a mook or put on some flashy display just to leave it at that. Typically, it's a form of foreshadowing. Armstrong, in my opinion, is way too badass to be a killer of nameless mooks, something any generic soldier can be. And General Raven was barely above that level. He had no alchemy, no weapon skills, & he was a massive coward. She may as well have been shooting a mean-spirited, ankle-nipping pidgeon. As satisfying as it would be, it's not the best use for your sharp-shooting skills.

Magus · 05-16-2010, 12:59 AM

While I admit that the idea of a sword fight between her and Wrath would've made a ton of sense and now I kind of wish it had gone that way, how it finally turned out was pretty awesome:

**SPOILER** Look, Ma, no hands!**SPOILER**

And really Scar had the biggest reason to fight Wrath.

Plus Olivia as awesome as she is is completely lacking in super powers, which is why her brother had to step in and help her defeat Sloth. She probably would've lasted about five seconds versus Wrath.

What is Olivia's strength is leadership ability, toughness, and ruthlessness and she has excelled at those. The coup using Briggs' soldiers she personally trained is her main contribution and while it may be indirect it is probably more important than any one battle.

Lithp · 05-16-2010, 01:46 AM

Wrath ultimately lost because he was blinded by an eclipse. With that circumstance, any reasonably skilled character could have defeated him.

I actually hated how that fight ended until I realized I was being a massive hypocrite for liking what happened with Kimblee & Scar in the original anime.

Anyway, I don't really care so much WHO beats Wrath. When I misread a TV Tropes thing & thought Yoki did it with a fucking car, I thought it sounded like the coolest thing ever. I just wanted her to FIGHT Wrath.

greed · 06-10-2010, 02:56 PM

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Maybe, though all that him humanising and all sounds like they're setting him up to die, like Hughes and his baby pictures.

But it was a totally awesome chapter, and was not expecting Al to sacrifice himself like that.

So now that it's ending, I'm kinda hoping the mangaka does another series. She's done a pretty great job with this one so I hope she doesn't retire like some of them do after one hit. Anyone heard anything about her plans?

And she's doing another series, haha, announced on the last page of the finale. Awesome. Oh man that was seriously a great ending. Wrapped everything up perfectly. Also glad that she actually gave us a look at the future. Like Al and Mei, and Ed and Winry all grown up and with babies, and Emperor Ling.

Also goddamnit Greed! I knew it, I knew they were setting him up to die. It was done about as awesomely as possible but still sad.

Grimpond · 06-10-2010, 02:58 PM

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And she's doing another series, haha, announced on the last page of the finale. Awesome. Oh man that was seriously a great ending. Wrapped everything up perfectly. Also glad that they actually gave us a look at the future. Like Al and Mei, and Ed and Winry's all grown up and with babies, and Emperor Ling.

Also goddamnit Greed! I knew it, I knew they were setting him up to die. It was done about as awesomely as possible but still sad.

God damn Greed was so cool. I'm sad to finally see this end, but the Author really did wrap it up in the best ways possible. AND she said she's starting on a new work!

Amake · 06-10-2010, 04:06 PM

In the words of Chazz Michael Michaels, Bam!

I love every part of the ending. But the best of all? "I'll give you half my life, so give me half of yours." That's how an alchemy otaku should propose.

And they didn't even have a big old cliche wedding like I and probably everyone else expected. Too few couples get married their own way, in words and actions that are meaningful to themselves, instead of going through the whole church charade. Only Natural Born Killers spring to mind, actually.

Yeah, I'm going to call it their wedding right there on the page, with the speeches, the misunderstandings, the laughing and the hugging. You can theorize they went through whatever passes a traditional wedding ceremony in Amertris and made it official later if you want.

PS. Is it just me or does it look like Winry had both Ed and Al's babies? Hopefully the mini-Al she's holding is Mei's. . .

phil_ · 06-10-2010, 05:51 PM

Hmm, I wonder how much Pride is still Pride. Is he still a mass of evil wrapped in a little boy, or is he the little boy now, with whirling evil-blades on the side? That should be Arakawa's next project: Salem's new life. It would be like Yotsuba, except with violence.

Wigmund · 06-10-2010, 07:59 PM

dawwww....Hayate had puppies :3

A Zarkin' Frood · 06-11-2010, 10:02 AM

I usually don't like x years later endings. But this one I do, sort of.

Winry's reaction to Ed's silly half life line was priceless.

Now I hope someone licenses Brotherhood for some country I live in so I can watch the whole story again instead of starting to read it a fourth time.

Yes, I know it's en vogue to illegally download it. But it's really not that simple in my case (shitty internet).
My rebel attitude also prevents me from doing what the kool kids do.

05-15-2010, 08:50 PM	#31
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	Her killing that one general guy and dumping his body in the concrete way back when was epic enough. __________________ The Valiant Review

05-16-2010, 12:48 AM	#32
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	It really isn't though. That feels like it's serving to show us she's awesome so we're prepared for some awesome shit she does in the future. Take some other badasses: Scar-He was originally established as a serial killer who could blow shit up with his hands. This was to lead to his fights with Kimblee & Wrath. Mustang-Hero of the Ishbal War. Uses flame with a flick of his finger. Envy kills a certain someone. Mustang goes apeshit on Envy. Hohenheim-We find out about his interesting past, which leads to him confronting the Big Cheese himself. You get the point. Generally, you don't kill a mook or put on some flashy display just to leave it at that. Typically, it's a form of foreshadowing. Armstrong, in my opinion, is way too badass to be a killer of nameless mooks, something any generic soldier can be. And General Raven was barely above that level. He had no alchemy, no weapon skills, & he was a massive coward. She may as well have been shooting a mean-spirited, ankle-nipping pidgeon. As satisfying as it would be, it's not the best use for your sharp-shooting skills. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.) Last edited by Lithp; 05-16-2010 at 12:51 AM.

05-16-2010, 12:59 AM	#33
Magus Archer and Armstrong vs. the World Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 7,164	While I admit that the idea of a sword fight between her and Wrath would've made a ton of sense and now I kind of wish it had gone that way, how it finally turned out was pretty awesome: SPOILER Look, Ma, no hands!SPOILER And really Scar had the biggest reason to fight Wrath. Plus Olivia as awesome as she is is completely lacking in super powers, which is why her brother had to step in and help her defeat Sloth. She probably would've lasted about five seconds versus Wrath. What is Olivia's strength is leadership ability, toughness, and ruthlessness and she has excelled at those. The coup using Briggs' soldiers she personally trained is her main contribution and while it may be indirect it is probably more important than any one battle. __________________ The Valiant Review

05-16-2010, 01:46 AM	#34
Lithp Boo Buddy Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 400	Wrath ultimately lost because he was blinded by an eclipse. With that circumstance, any reasonably skilled character could have defeated him. I actually hated how that fight ended until I realized I was being a massive hypocrite for liking what happened with Kimblee & Scar in the original anime. Anyway, I don't really care so much WHO beats Wrath. When I misread a TV Tropes thing & thought Yoki did it with a fucking car, I thought it sounded like the coolest thing ever. I just wanted her to FIGHT Wrath. __________________ Great site, especially for RPers: http://degosroleplaying.aceboard.com/ (As you can see, the key to advertisement is subtlety.)

06-10-2010, 04:06 PM	#37
Amake Keeper of the new Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: A place without judgment Posts: 4,506	The circle is closed In the words of Chazz Michael Michaels, Bam! I love every part of the ending. But the best of all? "I'll give you half my life, so give me half of yours." That's how an alchemy otaku should propose. And they didn't even have a big old cliche wedding like I and probably everyone else expected. Too few couples get married their own way, in words and actions that are meaningful to themselves, instead of going through the whole church charade. Only Natural Born Killers spring to mind, actually. Yeah, I'm going to call it their wedding right there on the page, with the speeches, the misunderstandings, the laughing and the hugging. You can theorize they went through whatever passes a traditional wedding ceremony in Amertris and made it official later if you want. PS. Is it just me or does it look like Winry had both Ed and Al's babies? Hopefully the mini-Al she's holding is Mei's. . . __________________ Hope insistent, trust implicit, love inherent, life immersed Last edited by Amake; 06-10-2010 at 04:17 PM.

06-10-2010, 05:51 PM	#38
phil_ Just sleeping Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: At home, probably in bed. Posts: 6,482	Hmm, I wonder how much Pride is still Pride. Is he still a mass of evil wrapped in a little boy, or is he the little boy now, with whirling evil-blades on the side? That should be Arakawa's next project: Salem's new life. It would be like Yotsuba, except with violence. __________________ Be T-Rexcellent to each other, tako.

06-10-2010, 07:59 PM	#39
Wigmund Lakitu Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northwest Arkansas Posts: 2,139	dawwww....Hayate had puppies :3 __________________ Slightly off-kilter

06-11-2010, 10:02 AM	#40
A Zarkin' Frood formerly known as Prince. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Right here, with you >:) Posts: 2,395	I usually don't like x years later endings. But this one I do, sort of. Winry's reaction to Ed's silly half life line was priceless. Now I hope someone licenses Brotherhood for some country I live in so I can watch the whole story again instead of starting to read it a fourth time. Yes, I know it's en vogue to illegally download it. But it's really not that simple in my case (shitty internet). My rebel attitude also prevents me from doing what the kool kids do. __________________ >:( C-: Last edited by A Zarkin' Frood; 06-11-2010 at 10:08 AM.