Pokémon Umbral ~ Ruinous Origins Discussion 2

[Menarker]

Don't Pokebrids get access to TM moves though? I'm pretty sure there are some super effective moves that are possible for Rhyperior.

[rapter200]

Oh I am sure as well but I am talking about the fact that they could probably OHKO me if I don't paradigm shift.

[Geminex]

Though I totally see what AB did har. A little thing called balancing. Ice, Fighting and Earth are the strongest offensive elements, all of them deal double damage to at least 4 types. Guess which elements aren't effective against Narcham. Yep. Ruin's other two resistances, fire and rock do double damage to 3 and 4 types respectively.

Same with elements that do extra damage to narcham. Dragon only deals double damage to itself. Only suddenly it deals quadruple damage to Ruin, all the more reason to use it. Same with the other four, all of which dealt double damage to only two types, until ruin came along.

And the the types that Ruin attacks are especially effective against pretty much follow the same scheme. Common offensive elements are discouraged. Fighting types get utterly screwed, same with ice types.

Clever bastard.

It'll be fun to see how people set up their teams and movesets now that things have been turned around. The only thing that annoys me is that the weapon I've been thinking of asking for (a dual-feed heavy rifle that can fire cryogenic or HV rounds, with an attached flashbang launcher) will now have to be scrapped.

[Menarker]

Originally Posted by Geminex

*Insert rest of insightful post*

It'll be fun to see how people set up their teams and movesets now that things have been turned around. The only thing that annoys me is that the weapon I've been thinking of asking for (a dual-feed heavy rifle that can fire cryogenic or HV rounds, with an attached flashbang launcher) will now have to be scrapped.

It is neat to note, and it will be interesting to see how people react to this. However my pokemon build was somehow quite suitable before I even learned of Ruin types and even with its revelation, it doesn't cause that much of a stir for me. ^^ Guess I chose well from the very beginning.

Also, it's true that dragon only does double damage to itself normally, but it also has the benefit that only steel types resists it, so it's basically like a normal type attack that isn't resisted by rock or ghost type. So it's good for reliability because so few types resist it.

But yeah, I imagine people will be scrambling asking for the right to either get a pokemon that is ruin type (Dibs on ruin/steel for me!) or a pokebrid or weapon based on it.

Question. If we do get the rights/chance to get ruin type pokemons, will they have the same sort of moves that the Narcham and its evolved form has at the moment? They are so much more powerful than standard moves such as double lowering two stats with high high power and chance for confusion or a OHKO move with 40 accuracy instead of 30 or the "Hit all enemies on field", and other such powerful stuff.
Will any of the current pokemons especially the ones reknown for having a super diverse movepool be able to learn these moves (if there is a invented TM for them) or something like that. Highly doubt it, but figured I would ask. Heck, hardly any different from Rhyperior being able to use dragon moves or Togekiss being able to use moves from 15 element type (16 if you count Toxic for poison although no direct damage poison moves).

[Astral Harmony]

Whew, finally home. I'll catch up now, promise.

I'm not clever at all. I simply looked at my type guide in this here strategy guide and started looking at what was effective against what. Y'see, Fighting and Ground types are effective against five different types of Pokémon, so I decided to make those types completely ineffective against Ruin types. Additionally, Dragon type damage is only effective against one other type, which is why I made it super-dee-duper effective against Ruin types. Steel, Dark and Ghost types are only effective against two types each, so I made those effective against Ruin types. I know that Normal isn't super effective at anything and Poison is effective against only one type, but I decided not to do anything about those.

Originally Posted by Gimenix

God dammit. All my weapons for Steel, Dark and Dragon are melee. The only ranged ones I have are Ghost and Psychic. There go my fantasies of being a gun-toting badass...

Reminds me of the game Breakdown, where you couldn't hurt the T'lan soldiers with guns or even grenades and instead had to take them on with your own T'langen powers and martial arts. I loved fighting Solus, the T'lan champion. One of my favorite boss fights, ever.

Originally Posted by Dracorian

You mean Rio and the rest of the Kimonos, right?

Indeedy I do, though the pervy, muscular party girl Rio and the hotheaded, egotistical showoff Kirie will be the only ones who rely on incredible strength as their method of killing.

[Dracorion]

Where the hell'd you get them from anyway? They're not the Kimonos from the games.

[DanteFalcon]

Frankly in terms of poison being effective against one type, most of poison's attacks aren't direct damage. And debatably it's best attack is toxic and the only type immune to that is Steel.

[Geminex]

Originally Posted by Armored Bishoujo

I'm not clever at all. I simply looked at my type guide in this here strategy guide and started looking at what was effective against what. Y'see, Fighting and Ground types are effective against five different types of Pokémon, so I decided to make those types completely ineffective against Ruin types. Additionally, Dragon type damage is only effective against one other type, which is why I made it super-dee-duper effective against Ruin types. Steel, Dark and Ghost types are only effective against two types each, so I made those effective against Ruin types.

Yah, that was pretty much exactly what I assumed in my post. What does your position in the Navy involve?

As for fighting Ruin...
I suppose I could just get a super-powered exosuit...

[Astral Harmony]

I calibrate electronics, which basically means I test their functions to make sure they're working exactly the way they're supposed to. 'Cause electronics that work right despite having warranties that expired before I was even born (and I'm 27 years old if you can believe that shit) help save the military money and can give the accurate readings and proper warnings that keep a ship running and its shipmates still alive.

I know it's an important job and all, but it's still a soul-crushingly boring one.

And the Kimonos have evolved as characters even outside the games. I've fleshed out their personalities in my mind where they're pretty much taken up permanent residence whether I like it or not. White Kimono Tsubasa the workaholic who cares about her friends. Green Kimono Kirie with her cocky attitude, obsessed rivalry with Tsubasa, and giant, burning sword. Violet Kimono Rio who loves innuendos, flirting, and can't stay away from a party or a fight to save her life. Blue Kimono Kiyoka who is Rio's lover, loves tinkering with machines both big and small, and gets violently jealous when Rio is coming on to someone else. Brown Kimono Takano who sings with a voice so beautiful and strikes with a true hunter's accuracy, but has a vocabulary and drinking habit that puts sailors to shame. Black Kimono Chizuru who is the most feminine, most well-endowed, loves housewife-y chores like cooking and cleaning and desires a wonderful husband and huge family. Yellow Kimono Mika who always has her face buried in magical tomes and isn't very sociable with anyone and never explains her motives, ever. Orange Kimono Nyoka who is a catgirl cyborg built by Mika and Kiyoka that uses an impossibly big laser cannon and superhuman abilities to obliterate the most durable opponents. Grey Kimono Fujiko who abused demonic rituals to obtain ultimate beauty and power and ended up becoming a horrid arachnid monster who is constantly plotting nefarious deeds that never seem to work. And Red Kimono Shizuka who leads them and is very quiet and reserved, but extremely lethal and fast with her katana.

And that's the Fanservice Power Rangers-I mean Kimonos.

[Geminex]

Now just make a theme song out of that, and you'd be good to go into the national media. I'm sure that'd make an awesome anime.

What ships d'you work on? Actual high-seas vessels (Arleigh-Burkes, Ticonderogas, that sort of thing), or more patrol boats?