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Unread 09-23-2010, 03:52 PM   #31
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It probably will never happen, but if it does, I give you the right.

Just saying.

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Unread 09-23-2010, 04:01 PM   #32
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No seriously explain it to me.
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Unread 09-23-2010, 04:07 PM   #33
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Also, fine, you wanna make separate versions of these for PVP? Sure.
I don't wanna make separate versions as such, but if it turns out that the rules of PVP would alter the techs' effects, or cause other problems, then yeah. I'd be willing to change them for PvP only. That shouldn't be hard.

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Obligatory derogatory comment about your mother.

Hey, I tried man. No one ever said I was good at balancing. Shit.

Besides, I probably would've caved around this point if you hadn't gotten all pissy about it. But I said I'd come up with some suggestions.

Anyway, I'm sorry I got so bogged down by your bullshit that I couldn't do it properly.
Fair enough. Though in my defense, my bullshit was only in response to your bullshit. Still perhaps we've learned our lesson this time.
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Y'know, some of us could consider your whole upgrade sheet to be one big uber.
Touche. Well, I'm still taking suggestions. Fun, balanced ideas? Anyone?

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But I guess that really does piss all over Matt's tech. Better do it your way.
Deal.

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2 Tactions per target, drop the bit with the crits. I get to reserve judgment for later.
Naturally. Deal.

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Disable is pretty great, actually, when you can use it for a paltry cost. Couple it with Menarker's Scapegoat move, and Serene Blessing for Impact, at 1 Taction cost? Shit, you could wreck ten different enemies in one turn.
Ok. You may have a point. But I think 2's too much, as it is. He couldn't 'really wreck' either. At most, they'd have to use a different attack for 3 turns. But hell, they have enough. The Slayers, definitely, and the trainers too. It's not that major, unless all of us start being vulnerable to a single element, all of a sudden. It won't be used that often, and when it will, it'll be allright...
Eh. Really don't know.

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Confuse Ray doesn't do that shit.

First of all, Confuse Ray's effects run out, and they're not undispellable. When this thing's confusion effect runs out? The target gets Exhaustion instead.

And one Taction per? That's bullshit. At most you'd spend 3 Tactions on it. You'd still have seven left to keep fucking over the enemies on top of them already being afflicted with undispellable Exhaustion that jumps around.

Keep the goddamn Rage cost.
But moo-OM.
Well once again, this is more confusion than exhaustion. I don't think our foes will survive long enough for the exhaustion to take effect. And ok, it doesn't run out. True. But that's why it has a constant cost. And 3 tactions per turn is a lot! Seriously. For what it does, I think it'd be worth it.
But ok, how about this instead.

Cost: 6 tactions initially. 2 per turn afterwards.
Effect: Afflicts exhaustion on target. When target dies, Impact gets half the target's rage, and the Fragment jumps to a new opponent to do the same there.
Conditions: Use only once per battle.

Is that any better? Stronger, but higher cost.

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Then again, I don't really know what I was thinking when I came up with that.
Fair enough. Let's leave my original suggestion.

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I mean, look back at the last time we fought Pokemercs. There were one or two with some troublesome abilities like Sturdy and Volt Absorb, and we used Worry Seed to eliminate those.
True. 2 tactions, lasts 2 turns, twice per turn.

In regards to formation shift and signature break, deal.

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That's probably the dumbest thing he could do.
How so?

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PS: dibs on Pokegeddon.

All of them.
Called dibs on Gardenoir ages ago. Still maintaining that. Besides, sequel-Impact is probably gonna be the only one capable of bringing them down, and even that'd be hard.
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Unread 09-23-2010, 04:22 PM   #34
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No seriously explain it to me.
Because Pierce is the only real hero next to Renny. The pokeggend on rank pretty high on the evil scale, and are also pretty hypocritical.

Impact hates pokemon, so him killing them wouldn't do much but just be a guy doing what he liked. Charlotte just likes to jill. She may have called them out on the hypocrisy, but that wouldn't be her motivation for killing them/

However, Pierce, and even Renny, sort of represent the opposite of what the Pokegeddon believes. They are friendly with their pokemon and work as a team with them. Pierce has the burning righteousness necessary to kill them though. At least thats the way I see it.

Nothing to say about Matt. Guess it's be funny to see him do it though.
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How so?
Because, Charlotte wants the personal satisfaction of doing the deed. Being ordered to do it would take away from that. Thus leaving Charlotte very embittered towards Impact for the remainder of the Universe.

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Unread 09-23-2010, 04:24 PM   #35
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Touche. Well, I'm still taking suggestions. Fun, balanced ideas? Anyone?
You could always get some straight up Domination.

That one really should have a percentage chance to fail, though. Or it should cost as much Rage and as many Tactions as you think Pierce has STDs.

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Ok. You may have a point. But I think 2's too much, as it is. He couldn't 'really wreck' either. At most, they'd have to use a different attack for 3 turns. But hell, they have enough. The Slayers, definitely, and the trainers too. It's not that major, unless all of us start being vulnerable to a single element, all of a sudden. It won't be used that often, and when it will, it'll be allright...
Eh. Really don't know.
Well, it's either that or we up the Rage cost a bit.

Alternatively, something like two Tactions to active, then 1 Taction for every attack.

Or two Tactions for the first attack, and one 1 Taction for every subsequent attack.

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But moo-OM.
Well once again, this is more confusion than exhaustion. I don't think our foes will survive long enough for the exhaustion to take effect. And ok, it doesn't run out. True. But that's why it has a constant cost. And 3 tactions per turn is a lot! Seriously. For what it does, I think it'd be worth it.
But ok, how about this instead.

Cost: 6 tactions initially. 2 per turn afterwards.
Effect: Afflicts exhaustion on target. When target dies, Impact gets half the target's rage, and the Fragment jumps to a new opponent to do the same there.
Conditions: Use only once per battle.

Is that any better? Stronger, but higher cost.
Hmm... Deal.

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True. 2 tactions, lasts 2 turns, twice per turn.
Deal.

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How so?
Because Charlotte is A REBEL!

You tell her to kill Burkmont and she's gonna be all like "You ain't the boss of me, boss man! Phantomere, sick 'im!"

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Called dibs on Gardenoir ages ago. Still maintaining that. Besides, sequel-Impact is probably gonna be the only one capable of bringing them down, and even that'd be hard.
How?

With his paltry (by your own admission) Slayer level 5 attacks?

Besides, you only called dibs on Gardenoir because you were leader and you're constantly trying to prove your penis size.
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Unread 09-23-2010, 04:26 PM   #36
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>_> Renny might try to make the pokegeddon see the error of their ways.

Hehe, Impact/Renny Dual Tech! Righteous Brainwashing!

Anyhow, typing on my laptop, class starting soon, so I won't be responding much for quite a while.

Anyhow, I'm getting a little confused by the sudden agreements to abilities for Gem and I don't have time to look at them at this moment. Would be nice if Gem can resummarize the modified version of his upgrade list thus far and which ones we're still talking about and working on?

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Unread 09-23-2010, 04:31 PM   #37
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Because Pierce is the only real hero next to Renny. The pokeggend on rank pretty high on the evil scale, and are also pretty hypocritical.

Impact hates pokemon, so him killing them wouldn't do much but just be a guy doing what he liked. Charlotte just likes to jill. She may have called them out on the hypocrisy, but that wouldn't be her motivation for killing them/

However, Pierce, and even Renny, sort of represent the opposite of what the Pokegeddon believes. They are friendly with their pokemon and work as a team with them. Pierce has the burning righteousness necessary to kill them though. At least thats the way I see it.

Nothing to say about Matt. Guess it's be funny to see him do it though.
Well, see.

Pokegeddon isn't really "evil" per se, are they?

I mean, they're trying to free pokemon from the evil yoke of humans. While they're pretty prejudiced against everyone (seriously, aside from assholes like the mafia and criminals and Faynoc and Burkmont, everyone treats their pokemon great), they're still trying to do what they think is right.

And they refrained from killing anybody back at Prime Square. AB explained that their SigTechs weren't actually real. Like, y'know, sort of like in RPGs where characters use ridiculous attacks like blowing a hole in the ozone layer or striking an enemy with enough force to crack the planet? Flooding a city? Except right after those attacks are done, the planet is still there.

AB sort of used the same logic. No one was actually hurt by Pokegeddon.

Of course, that's complete bullshit. It doesn't make sense and I would've preferred it the other way around.

Still, while Pierce's got the burning righteousness to kill fuckers like Burkmont and Faynoc, he probably wouldn't kill Pokegeddon.
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Because Charlotte is A REBEL!

You tell her to kill Burkmont and she's gonna be all like "You ain't the boss of me, boss man! Phantomere, sick 'im!"
This sums it up in addition to what I said above.

She's be like, "You can't tell me what to do! You aren't my real dad! I'll kill him because I want to!" And then she's send Arceus his way, because killing him as well is the way to justify it in her mind.

Also, she'd be leader sp N'YEH!

Edit: I am aware the Pokeggedon didn't actually kill anyone, but I like to think they did. It just seems right to me that they actually massacred people by the dozens before claiming higher ground and saving them.

Also, thaey all just sort of strike me as assholes who deserve some sort of punishment just 'cause.

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That one really should have a percentage chance to fail, though. Or it should cost as much Rage and as many Tactions as you think Pierce has STDs.
That would be all the tactions.
All of them.

I'll consider it, though.

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Or two Tactions for the first attack, and one 1 Taction for every subsequent attack.
This sounds acceptable. 1 taction, 25 rage startup cost, and 1 tactioin for every attack. Let's do it that way.

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How?

With his paltry (by your own admission) Slayer level 5 attacks?
Well, i was thinking more along the lines of u(DATA EXPUNGED)hem, or just mi(DATE EXPUNGED) and then ha(DATA EXPUNGED), which'd be really fun, cause when it all plays out it'd basically be (DATA EXPUNGED), and come on, that'd be hilarious!

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Besides, you only called dibs on Gardenoir because you were leader and you're constantly trying to prove your penis size.
Well, it was more because she let him live, and nobody shows Impact mercy without regretting it the moment they die.

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Hehe, Impact/Renny Dual Tech! Righteous Brainwashing!
This intrigues me and I wish to hear more.
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Also, she'd be leader sp N'YEH!
Brb, in negotiation mode.

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Edit: I am aware the Pokeggedon didn't actually kill anyone, but I like to think they did. It just seems right to me that they actually massacred people by the dozens before claiming higher ground and saving them.

Also, thaey all just sort of strike me as assholes who deserve some sort of punishment just 'cause.
Well, I know I won't be satisfied until they take a rotund beating when we finally beat them.

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Well, i was thinking more along the lines of u(DATA EXPUNGED)hem, or just mi(DATE EXPUNGED) and then ha(DATA EXPUNGED), which'd be really fun, cause when it all plays out it'd basically be (DATA EXPUNGED), and come on, that'd be hilarious!
Oh! Oh!

Oh wow.

Hahaha oh man it would be hilarious.

But I'm afraid I must decline.

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Well, it was more because she let him live, and nobody shows Impact mercy without regretting it the moment they die.
They let us all live. I'm pretty sure everyone is entitled to kill Gardenoir, by that logic.

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This intrigues me and I wish to hear more.
Renny and Impact bombard the enemies with Hippie propaganda!

Basically just a constant barrage of loud noises and messages like "IMPACT LOVES YOU" and "LET RENNY GIVE YOU A HUG".
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