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Unread 12-15-2010, 05:34 PM   #31
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It's silly to rule the mandate unconstitutional but it's still shitty policy so I'm not gonna cry too hard if it gets shredded by our terrible Supreme Court.

...Unless they take the opportunity to like, overturn the Commerce Clause or some wacky shit.
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Unread 12-16-2010, 08:37 PM   #32
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Wait, if the mandate for health insurance gets overturned, what are the implications for the auto insurance mandate?
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Unread 12-16-2010, 09:14 PM   #33
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Wait, if the mandate for health insurance gets overturned, what are the implications for the auto insurance mandate?
I'm pretty sure there are no implications. Whether or not you can choose to insure yourself from harm is not the same as being forced to insure yourself from causing other people harm.

Remember; car insurance isn't created to protect you. It's created to protect other people from you.
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Whatever happens now that we've got a party split in the Legislative branch we can expect at least 2 years of next-to-nothing that isn't bipartisan in the first place.

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Unread 12-17-2010, 03:43 AM   #35
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I'm pretty sure there are no implications. Whether or not you can choose to insure yourself from harm is not the same as being forced to insure yourself from causing other people harm.

Remember; car insurance isn't created to protect you. It's created to protect other people from you.
True enough, except that the argument that from what I can tell is being made is that it is unconstitutional to force people to buy something. Also, the argument can be made that forcing everybody to buy health insurance is to protect everybody so that the one guy without insurance can't somehow pass the cost on to others who do pay into the system.
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Unread 12-17-2010, 04:50 AM   #36
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Re: auto insurance v. health insurance, some of the difference might be that the auto insurance requirements mostly seem to be enforced by state governments. TBH I'm not actually sure offhand what federal laws exist requiring you to have auto insurance? It might just be an area where the 50 states all happen to have roughly the same laws because it just makes basic-ass sense.
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Unread 12-17-2010, 08:52 AM   #37
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Yeah, vehicle insurance is state-based.
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Unread 12-17-2010, 07:24 PM   #38
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Wouldn't that just mean that the states are potentially violating the constitution then?
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Unread 12-17-2010, 09:25 PM   #39
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Wouldn't that just mean that the states are potentially violating the constitution then?
The Constitution mostly only addresses state law when it comes to how it interacts with federal law.
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