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Unread 01-06-2011, 12:53 PM   #31
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Well, about that...

And the technique, I'll take care of the paperwork, Menarker. I'll even put it in the plans so our nice GMs don't have to worry their poor heads. So I'd like to try it with the 'Pay as you go' thing. If it turns out too strong, I'll change it from a free to a standard action, that should take care of that.

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EDIT: Actually, Menarker raises a fair point. I would propose that if you use Dark Ambition, okay, you pay whatever you 45 Rage or 60 or whatever you like. But if you skip a turn, Dark Ambition ends and if you want another stat boost you gotta pay 45 all over again. v
How do I 'skip a turn'?
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Unread 01-06-2011, 12:55 PM   #32
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By the way Menarker, there are six stats.

Six, remember?

Would you like me to name them for you?

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How do I 'skip a turn'?
By not spending Rage to get a stat boost after you've activated Dark Ambition.

Basically this is to avoid something like you spending 75 Rage on stat boosts and then waiting a turn or two to gather Rage and spend another 15 for the last +2.
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Unread 01-06-2011, 12:56 PM   #33
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HP boosts don't working during combat, though. HP is determined pre-battle. Or it has been, so far. You wanna change that?

Edit: Why do I pay rage to get stats boosts?
Dark ambition gives me a fixed amount of stats boosts per turn. +2 to x stats. Initially, x=2. I can make dark ambition boost more stats by paying further rage.

But I'm not paying for the boosts directly. I'm paying to increase the amount of boosts I get per turn.

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Unread 01-06-2011, 12:59 PM   #34
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Yeah, forget I said anything.

EDIT: GGHHKKKKTTTTTT-

Someone try to explain my point to Geminex. I'mma go pack some more and grab a bite.
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Unread 01-06-2011, 01:02 PM   #35
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Oh, I see.
Well, that's stupid.

What if I pay the full 90 rage to begin with? Do I still have to keep spending 15 rage per turn?

And besides, after 2 turns of +2 to 4 stats, paying another 15 wouldn't really be worth it.
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Unread 01-06-2011, 01:04 PM   #36
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... I don't even know what point Drac thought I raised.

Gem, I don't mind the entire pay as you go concept. It's relatively simple enough anyhow.

And the "skip a turn if you don't pay rage" sounds like an unfair rage rage grab.
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Unread 01-06-2011, 01:05 PM   #37
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The PAYG technique is pretty strong, so I wouldn't call it unfair.
But I don't wanna pay upkeep...
Hummm...
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Unread 01-06-2011, 01:13 PM   #38
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Well, that's one of the reasons why I didn't think of the Pay as you Go method.
Reaching 90 rage is already a difficult task, because you need rage rockets, attacking and being hit, or something like Second Wind, which is an element of risk AND taking up valuable time. So if you managed to hit 90 rage and opted to spend it all on that ability, then you deserve a pretty damn good reward.
But with PAYG, you start getting buffs and as you're getting hit and as you attack, you're gaining rage to get even more.

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I don't agree with the upkeep thing at all. It needlessly drains rage and thus demotivates you from using a technique that were buffing in the first place so you would use it more often! Kinda self-defeating.


What I would suggest is that we use the pay as you go system with no upkeep. HOWEVER, paying as you go would be a standard action instead of instant.

So, the first payment is instant speed, so you gain the bonuses instantly and thus you're encouraged to spend as much as you are able for as many bonuses as soon as possible.
If you REALLY need more buffs afterwards then, you CAN get them, but it'll take a little investment of time along with the rage you probably got from attacking and being hit (which got boosted from your buffs in the first place).

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Unread 01-06-2011, 01:18 PM   #39
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Point. Forget PAYG, I'll go with the orignal.
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Unread 01-06-2011, 01:20 PM   #40
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