Calvinball: The Good Ol' Days

[Forever Zero]

Originally Posted by Jarlax

I don't know of any other forums that allow RP.

You obviously weren't looking for them.

http://advforums.atp.cx/index.php
http://www.buzzcomix.net/community/index.php
http://go-gaia.com/
http://www.squidi.net/forum2/

All those are off the top of my head, forums with Roleplaying. Two of them are unmoderated practically.

[RaiRai]

Indeed. Spam IS Gaia. And Calvinball is MUCH better suited there than it is here at 8bit. God forbid this kind of roleplay starts up in Avariel...

From the existing General Roleplaying rules which you'll find stickied at the top of this forum:

We would ask however that you do not create any battle arena types, or god mode characters.

Maybe if this continues, I'll take it one step further and ban these kind of roleplays altogether. Someone mentioned that it gives outlet for spam so that it doesn't get involved in other roleplays? That's bullshit. Take my roleplay for example. Perhaps not spam, but stupid OOC comments that were out of place. Spam is to be kept to your own forums or places like Go Gaia where it is actually enticed. Spam is NOT welcome here. And if complaints keep being made, whereas threads are reported and I see them going out of hand, I will definately be putting up stronger rules. You guys already get away with MUCH more than the people at Avariel.

No one has yet given me reason for Calvinballs continued existance. The fact it's just a load of random posts and stronger than thou characters just shows that it IS spam. I can hardly see how something in this context is fun nor how you gain anything from it other than a strange sense of pride over God-like characters.

Perhaps this is for further discussion in the Guidelines thread, but I shall be looking into what we can do to make this forum better for everyone. Perhaps even laying down some concrete rules for such free-for-all roleplays.

[Jadarendir]

Why can't you guys just understand that other people have every right to have fun as well? Me and SAAM go to the same school, so we discuss and plot and plan things that have happened/will happen in Calvinball. We love the game, and its people like these that really piss people like US off. Take BMHadoken. He took it into his own hands to try and shut down Calvinball because HE didn't like it, with no regard whatsoever for the people who made it.

You know what would make everybody REALLY happy?

IGNORE US AND LEAVE US ALONE.

[RaiRai]

(Shiney speaking) You can take it to your own forum then. It's become enough of a problem here that measures had to be taken...if the rules can't be followed then we can't go out of our way for anyone. The mods are charged with upholding the rules - we would be remiss if we were to turn our head against any sort of violation.

Frankly, I think this is ridiculous. I've been sat over across the room playing Mario Sunshine and letting Rai take care of this, but it seems like nobody wants to respect her.

Who wants this forum to get as strict as the discussion forum? Anyone? Cause I'm damn inclined to cause that to happen. If this whining and disagreeable BS doesn't stop, if people can't follow the rules that she established and is currently trying to maintain, I will make very certain that all the mods pay special attention to the roleplay forum.

You have a good thing going here. Accept the loss of Calvinball and move on. If necessary, resurrect it at another forum. I'm not going to say anymore on this matter. At least, I hope I won't have to.

[videogamerz2000]

Oy, my head starts to jurt now.
Okay. I'm going to try and forget all those blatent remarks from the last few pages and move on. I now apologize (sp? sorry, i'm horrible) to IMHN and BMH for my lack of self-awarness in the flaming part and I beat myself over the head. But, I do have to say that I agree with the whole 'People just waiting to post and change everything up.' Now if we look to Jadarendir and SAAM, they do make all the big shots around here. I try to help (if it's not working now, yell at me later), and I fully agree with Jada. Now, as of late, some of the more intelligent players are avoiding spamming and are trying to move away from the whole god-moding and make it more realistic. if I look back, the more intelligent players avodi the whole 'Uh i ATTACk with huge laser gun and you goo boom!' thing with nOOb stuff and all that crap. No one here wants that. It's retarded and we as players do like better posts with more thought, detail and maybe a witty pun. Now, in regards to the rules, we are fully aware we maybe have stepped beyond our boundries but we have recoiled once in a while and lookeed shamefullly upon ourselves (I have).Although, in response to RaiRai's random post idea, only a select few do three word posts. We usually try to ignore those people and encourage them to become better and put some thought in. But as I look, sometimes it's the same people (*cough*HoP*cough*) repeating those mistakes. I also agree that the whole OOC thing has gotten out of hand and that it should just stop here. It mostly stuff that could be PM'ed though people are 'too lazy'.
I think I'm done now. If you really don't want to understand this, consider it the rambling's of a teen. Thank you. Please leave us to ourselves. We never hurt anyone intentionally.

[RaiRai]

No. I don't intend to leave you to yourselves. This is a public forum and I've recieved enough complaints about Calvinball from various users for this to have become a problem. If you want to continue, take it to your very own Calvinball forums. I'm sure that no one will have a problem with it there.

What I fail to see is the basis for arguement here. The thread was closed for a reason. That reason was spam. I don't see anyone actually saying 'We won't spam' 'We'll include more roleplay' 'We'll improve the situation'. I'm just hearing 'leave us alone because we said so'.

Whereas Shiney may not be willing to listen to you guys, I am. But so far you've offered me nothing other than moaning. The thread wasn't closed because one user didn't like it. It wasn't closed because I didn't like it. It was because there were enough reported posts to sink my email and I had to act upon it. I work with the system and you're pushing against it for no good reason.

If Calvinball means so much to you, make your own forums. It's what I did with the Avariel roleplay and I now have a thriving roleplaying forum. There are ways around this instead of bitching and whining.

[Kazastankas]

Perhaps they just don't want to get away from here. As suggested in the sticky thread or whatever that was, it would be a satisfactory compromise, I think, to make a forum just for Calvinball and other such spammy things, and perhaps, if some want to do so, to give the option to the users to ignore the forums. It won't make them leave NKF, and it allows the other users to ignore it if they must. Sort of a win-win.

[Funka Genocide]

I understand this situation now. Its like owning a car, its your car no matter who drives it, friends, family members or joy riders. Nobody likes their radio station presets messed around with. This forum is somebodies intellectual property, their brain child if you will, and people are very protective of their children. Nobody wants their kids to grow up as losers or criminals. Rules were placed in order to rear this child in a certain manner, with a certain direction. Calvin Ball is obviously too far removed from that ideal, and thusly does not fit. It is a sad fact that Calvin ball can not coexist with other rps, but I must admit that it is true. I know that if I created a forum and somebody started posting things completely out of line with my aims, I would be insulted. My apologies for taking up everyones time with my attempts to ressurect Calvin Ball. Thanks for being patient enough to try and discuss this Rai Rai and Shiney. And to everyone who enjoyed playing Calvin Ball, I would follow the advice of the mods and others and try to create another forum, or find one that is conductive to Calvin Ball. But I wouldn't stop posting here, this is still a great place with much fun to be had! Sorry for arguing, it just my nature =)


as a side note, I just realized how much it sucks to have your post shut down, I always read other people getting shut down and I would usually laugh, because a lot of times the mods would say something funny while shutting them down. It really hurts though, like losing an arm and still having phantom pain or something.

[RaiRai]

As I stated in the upper thread, subforums are not an option. I don't have that right and it would also encourage spam which is what we are trying to steer AWAY from here. If the Calvinball players don't want to move away from this forum, they will have to comprimise. And until I see an answer from those in question that isn't basically a 'leave us alone' post, I don't see that happening any time soon.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't have fun. This roleplaying forum is not within my mindset. It's within the rules that I was allowed to create. Know why? Because I was ASKED to be a mod for this very reason. The rest don't often come here because they don't like having to deal with the complaints and the spam. I do it because I enjoy doing it and I see it as a challenge.

I've offered alternatives. Am I supposed to just turn a blind eye to this now? I don't understand the basis for arguement if people aren't willing to comprimise. I've been listening for a long time now and I'm still not hearing anything that is making me change my mind. Calvinball could work well here, assuming that the people who created it are willing to make small changes. If not, then yes, it is better suited for a forum which allows god-moding roleplays and to the lesser extent, spam.

[Kazastankas]

Huh. You know, at first I thought this was actually a simulation of Calvinball, though I heavily doubted. But reading a couple of posts gave me the true impression that this was never Calvinball, and it never will be Calvinball. It seems to be a flood of god-modding, and another flood about how god-modding is not allowed, and yet another flood of arguments about how this attack shouldn't have done anything to me, I have more forms, and such and such. Personally, I thik that's quite a disruptive thing, and though having fun, apparantly the 'fun' of this have gotten too far into the bones of others. Either way, I'd have to say that yes, there will have to be changes made to fit the rules, but I do not think that it will help. Either way, I see the ultimatum for this thing as going to another forum. Just my opinion.