No One Gives A Shit About That Climate Change Thing That's Going to Kill Us All - Page 4

Solid Snake · 08-01-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by K-Resh

It seems sort of weird to assume that someone who could gain the authority and capacity to launch nukes would use them to nuke the resources they want.

Would nukes impact fossil fuels deep beneath the surface of the nuked land?

/serious question, I really don't know the answer

Krylo · 08-01-2012, 02:02 PM

Unlikely, but they would make it rather difficult to set up a drilling operation to get it out. Also, in the case of massive deaths from rising temperatures and a shortage of food, I don't think oil will be the primary resource we'll be warring for anymore, as opposed to farm land.

Solid Snake · 08-01-2012, 02:04 PM

At any rate, I really don't want to put ourselves in a position where we'll learn the answers to these hypothetical questions of what governments might be willing to do the hard way.

EDIT: Even assuming monstrous hydrogen bombs were ruled out due to a need to extract resources, tactical nukes and other smaller-scale WMDs could definitely be used to obliterate major population centers and government capitals, effectively enabling faroff farmland and water resources within said foreign jurisdiction to be easily conquered.
Why am I indulging in this scary-as-shit hypothetical again?

Sifright · 08-01-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

At any rate, I really don't want to put ourselves in a position where we'll learn the answers to these hypothetical questions of what governments might be willing to do the hard way.

it's not the hard way, the hard way is getting rich to stop being evil shits who don't care about any one else and about anything other than their bottom line. Oil company CEO's are moving away from saying climate change isn't happening to saying the effects just dont matter and that we should just adapt. Probably because their companies entire asset portfolio is reliant on the world continuing to go through fossil fuels at an ever increasing rate.

Karrrrrrrrrrrresche · 08-01-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake

EDIT: Even assuming monstrous hydrogen bombs were ruled out due to a need to extract resources, tactical nukes and other smaller-scale WMDs could definitely be used to obliterate major population centers and government capitals, effectively enabling faroff farmland and water resources within said foreign jurisdiction to be easily conquered.

Well the big thing isn't the initial destruction of the bomb but the damage that can be caused by the Radiation soaking into the ground, which can go for I think hundreds of miles.

Krylo · 08-01-2012, 03:08 PM

Tactical nukes are called that because they're more precise and have less widespread fallout than normal nukes. Generally very small nuclear charges that are directed etc. etc.

Anyway, the 'How exactly will we continue to ruin the world once the world is ruined' is probably a little off topic of 'we're all going to die of starvation and no one is doing anything to stop it' thing.

Ecks · 08-01-2012, 04:28 PM

Lets all go to mars

Ramary · 08-01-2012, 04:30 PM

The rich are working on space programs to get to Mars. It is their master plan.

Osterbaum · 08-01-2012, 05:21 PM

Since more and more Space Exploration related stuff is getting turned over to private companies, might be that's exactly what some of the rich are betting on.

Aerozord · 08-01-2012, 06:37 PM

they wont use nukes, not just because of what was mentioned before about making it vastly harder to get the resources but also because mutually assured destruction is still a thing.

Besides if we are that desperate for fuel we will use nuclear power. Say what you want about the dangers but if we are risking nuclear war to get to oil than a well made reactor is a better option. And thats assuming we dont have fusion or more economical solar power by then.

War will be over food and water, which america has lots of. Worst case scenario they can great a massive irrigation system using the great lakes. Expensive yes but well within our technological abilities. China and India are the other two major food providers, but they lack the fresh water we have. Even if they didn't, again America is one of the major food providers of the world. Most other countries already rely on food from these three places to survive. What do you think will happen when we start hording it all for ourselves?

US is more likely to be invaded than to invade.

As for us as a species surviving. Of course we will. It wont be a good life, but it will be life. I said the species would survive, the culture will die.

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Lets all go to mars

in all seriousness I'd be totally behind abandoning ship and colonizing space. Personally I think its kind of dumb to have all our metaphoric eggs on the literal earth

08-01-2012, 02:02 PM	#32
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Unlikely, but they would make it rather difficult to set up a drilling operation to get it out. Also, in the case of massive deaths from rising temperatures and a shortage of food, I don't think oil will be the primary resource we'll be warring for anymore, as opposed to farm land. __________________ I am very tired.

08-01-2012, 02:04 PM	#33
Solid Snake Erotic Esquire Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,563	At any rate, I really don't want to put ourselves in a position where we'll learn the answers to these hypothetical questions of what governments might be willing to do the hard way. EDIT: Even assuming monstrous hydrogen bombs were ruled out due to a need to extract resources, tactical nukes and other smaller-scale WMDs could definitely be used to obliterate major population centers and government capitals, effectively enabling faroff farmland and water resources within said foreign jurisdiction to be easily conquered. Why am I indulging in this scary-as-shit hypothetical again? __________________ *WARNING:* Snek's all up in this thread. Be prepared to read massive walls of text. Last edited by Solid Snake; 08-01-2012 at 02:06 PM.

08-01-2012, 03:08 PM	#36
Krylo The Straightest Shota Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: It's a secret to everybody. Posts: 17,789	Tactical nukes are called that because they're more precise and have less widespread fallout than normal nukes. Generally very small nuclear charges that are directed etc. etc. Anyway, the 'How exactly will we continue to ruin the world once the world is ruined' is probably a little off topic of 'we're all going to die of starvation and no one is doing anything to stop it' thing. __________________ I am very tired.

08-01-2012, 05:21 PM	#39
Osterbaum The revolution will be memed! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: FIN Posts: 5,967	Since more and more Space Exploration related stuff is getting turned over to private companies, might be that's exactly what some of the rich are betting on. __________________ D is for Dirty Commie!

08-01-2012, 04:30 PM	#38
Ramary HE OPENS THE DOOR TO HIS DARK PAST Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Some craphole Posts: 770	The rich are working on space programs to get to Mars. It is their master plan.