Legend of Korra Book 4: You aint bout Dat Toph - Page 4

Aldurin · 10-28-2014, 07:57 AM

I'm more interested about the long-term consequences of the second season, since it's unclear about whether or not Unalok and Vatu are bound to their own avatar cycle. Sure they were totally killed in the avatar state, which Zaheer believed would sever the avatar fusion, but that's not actually confirmed. But they probably won't do that since "we have to kill this kid before Unalok's memories overwrite his/her personality" is probably too dark for Nickelodeon.

The Fire Nation is probably sidelined because it was the big thing in AtLA and the rest of the world deserved more attention, but the neglect is really starting to show now (water-arm lady's prison in season 2 was probably the only scene to take place at the Fire Nation if I'm remembering properly.)

Also, it never really stood out to me before, but the elements are stupidly imbalanced for combat.

Air: Godlike in versatility and speed (no wonder Plot Nation wiped out the airbenders)
Fire: Pretty good, but weak on barrier penetration.
Water: Strong, but dependent on water supply.
Earth: Pretty weak aside from large projectiles and making cover.
Earth (with consideration of the variant earthbenders): Fear itself, taking the form of the weaker elements to a limited degree while using metalbending to basically be SpiderIronManThor.

Ryong · 10-28-2014, 09:18 AM

I don't think we've seen anyone Firebending or Earthbending anywhere on the level where it was shown in AtLA yet, besides using it for propulsion. Also, Lightningbending is probably the best thing for "barrier penetration".

Lavabending is pretty OP, though.

Vaatu is probably part of Raava currently.

Aerozord · 10-28-2014, 10:56 AM

All the elements are nerfed to be less fatal. We saw what airbending is like when someone is trying to kill another human being. Likewise earthbending attacks, a rock of that size going at that speed would break bones if not kill you. Fire bending is the only one not weakened but only because they ignore convection. Fighting a fire bender would quickly become like fighting inside an oven

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Originally Posted by Aldurin

I'm more interested about the long-term consequences of the second season, since it's unclear about whether or not Unalok and Vatu are bound to their own avatar cycle. Sure they were totally killed in the avatar state, which Zaheer believed would sever the avatar fusion, but that's not actually confirmed. But they probably won't do that since "we have to kill this kid before Unalok's memories overwrite his/her personality" is probably too dark for Nickelodeon.

I dont see why, its not like Korra's personality was being overwritten by the first Avatar's. I think thats part of the idea. While some core things are always there, a desire for peace and stability, selflessness, each Avatar is their own unique person with different opinions and beliefs of what should be done

Ryong · 10-28-2014, 01:54 PM

I mean, look at AtLA, firebenders would shoot huge fireballs and waves of fire, earthbenders would blast the ground beneath their enemies while dodging and their covers would be more than a tiny wall that can get blown away by almost anything.

Bending, as a whole, seems to be a lot more about precision than large attacks now.

rpgdemon · 10-28-2014, 07:06 PM

Also, Earthbending would be freaking overpowered if more earthbenders would just do what the evil king did in AtLA and suck people underground. It solves 99% of the fights in seconds.

Also also, we know for a fact that being killed in the avatar cycle ends it, it was a major plot point in AtLA, said to us by the person who knew the most of spiritual stuff and the avatar cycle of anyone we've met thus far, who taught Aang what the avatar state was/how to use it.

Aldurin · 10-29-2014, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rpgdemon

Also, Earthbending would be freaking overpowered if more earthbenders would just do what the evil king did in AtLA and suck people underground. It solves 99% of the fights in seconds.

Also also, we know for a fact that being killed in the avatar cycle ends it, it was a major plot point in AtLA, said to us by the person who knew the most of spiritual stuff and the avatar cycle of anyone we've met thus far, who taught Aang what the avatar state was/how to use it.

~~That wasn't in the movie.~~ I forgot about that, but I guess it's for the best since having the dark avatar cycle would be darkening the tone too much.

Premmy · 10-29-2014, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aldurin

I'm more interested about the long-term consequences of the second season, since it's unclear about whether or not Unalok and Vatu are bound to their own avatar cycle. Sure they were totally killed in the avatar state, which Zaheer believed would sever the avatar fusion, but that's not actually confirmed. But they probably won't do that since "we have to kill this kid before Unalok's memories overwrite his/her personality" is probably too dark for Nickelodeon.

The Avatar cycle seems to exist because of Rava's pledge to Wan to reincarnate after each avatar's death in order to maintain peace. Vaatu making no such promise to anyone, and the potential that he will not manifest(if he hasn't been completely neutralized) in 1000 years, and then only by bursting forth from Rava most likely means there is no dark avatar cycle.

Kyanbu The Legend · 11-02-2014, 04:07 PM

I just realized what Kuvira might be doing to Su.

Gotta love those Villain mind games. And Su is playing right into it.

Kyanbu The Legend · 11-07-2014, 08:30 PM

New Episode

As expected, Su's assassination attempt was exactly what Kuvira wanted and ended up costing them Zaofu. Korra's still not quite past her PTSD understandably and a one on one fight with Kuvira for Zaofu was the worst possible time for it to flare up.

And Varrick is bat shit insane... and I love him for it.

Ryong · 11-07-2014, 09:51 PM

Now more than ever it seems like Korra has learnt how to bend the four elements, but doesn't know the techniques and motions for any of them.

10-28-2014, 07:06 PM	#35
rpgdemon Not a Taco Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,313	Also, Earthbending would be freaking overpowered if more earthbenders would just do what the evil king did in AtLA and suck people underground. It solves 99% of the fights in seconds. Also also, we know for a fact that being killed in the avatar cycle ends it, it was a major plot point in AtLA, said to us by the person who knew the most of spiritual stuff and the avatar cycle of anyone we've met thus far, who taught Aang what the avatar state was/how to use it. __________________ I did a lot of posting on here as a teenager, and I was pretty awful. Even after I learned, grew up, and came to be on the right side of a lot of important issues, I was still angry, abrasive, and generally increased the amount of hate in the world, in pretty unacceptable ways. On the off chance that someone is taking a trip down memory lane looking through those old threads, I wanted to devote my signature to say directly to you, I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me be better, NPF.

11-02-2014, 04:07 PM	#38
Kyanbu The Legend Local Rookie Indie Dev Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,497	I just realized what Kuvira might be doing to Su. Gotta love those Villain mind games. And Su is playing right into it. __________________

11-07-2014, 08:30 PM	#39
Kyanbu The Legend Local Rookie Indie Dev Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,497	New Episode As expected, Su's assassination attempt was exactly what Kuvira wanted and ended up costing them Zaofu. Korra's still not quite past her PTSD understandably and a one on one fight with Kuvira for Zaofu was the worst possible time for it to flare up. And Varrick is bat shit insane... and I love him for it. __________________

10-28-2014, 07:57 AM	#31
Aldurin Lakitu Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4,648	I'm more interested about the long-term consequences of the second season, since it's unclear about whether or not Unalok and Vatu are bound to their own avatar cycle. Sure they were totally killed in the avatar state, which Zaheer believed would sever the avatar fusion, but that's not actually confirmed. But they probably won't do that since "we have to kill this kid before Unalok's memories overwrite his/her personality" is probably too dark for Nickelodeon. The Fire Nation is probably sidelined because it was the big thing in AtLA and the rest of the world deserved more attention, but the neglect is really starting to show now (water-arm lady's prison in season 2 was probably the only scene to take place at the Fire Nation if I'm remembering properly.) Also, it never really stood out to me before, but the elements are stupidly imbalanced for combat. Air: Godlike in versatility and speed (no wonder Plot Nation wiped out the airbenders) Fire: Pretty good, but weak on barrier penetration. Water: Strong, but dependent on water supply. Earth: Pretty weak aside from large projectiles and making cover. Earth (with consideration of the variant earthbenders): Fear itself, taking the form of the weaker elements to a limited degree while using metalbending to basically be SpiderIronManThor.

10-28-2014, 09:18 AM	#32
Ryong Professional Threadkiller Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,798	I don't think we've seen anyone Firebending or Earthbending anywhere on the level where it was shown in AtLA yet, besides using it for propulsion. Also, Lightningbending is probably the best thing for "barrier penetration". Lavabending is pretty OP, though. Vaatu is probably part of Raava currently.

10-28-2014, 01:54 PM	#34
Ryong Professional Threadkiller Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,798	I mean, look at AtLA, firebenders would shoot huge fireballs and waves of fire, earthbenders would blast the ground beneath their enemies while dodging and their covers would be more than a tiny wall that can get blown away by almost anything. Bending, as a whole, seems to be a lot more about precision than large attacks now.

11-07-2014, 09:51 PM	#40
Ryong Professional Threadkiller Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,798	Now more than ever it seems like Korra has learnt how to bend the four elements, but doesn't know the techniques and motions for any of them.