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Unread 09-27-2011, 09:58 PM   #411
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Even if hindsight was like five minutes ago. Gah.

Uh. I'll stop posting in here until Fenris gives a verdict.
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Unread 09-27-2011, 10:00 PM   #412
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Actually, given that you'd be confirmed Town by virtue of your testimony if you were Replaced, the right move is probably for Fenris to Modkill you, have the Modkill end the Day (essentially acting as if Town mislynched you D1, which could have happened anyway) and go to Night.

Reasoning: The fact that you 'cheated' shouldn't help Town, but if you're Replaced it does help Town because your role is confirmed Town even after you leave. BTW, the 'cheating' you did wasn't mistakenly learning this information but rather broadcasting it publicly (essentially confirming your Town role via Meta) and really, definitely should have just PMed Fenris and not outed yourself. If you're merely replaced, Scum likely kills your replacement N1 (thus making the replacement basically worthless) and maybe Scum wouldn't have if you didn't change the dynamic.

NOTE: I am not Mod and Fenris could totally contradict me. I'm just sayin' how I'd handle it. Because you see, Bookie, by just announcing what you've seen, even if you're wrong about what you saw, you just completely upset the balance of the game by relying on extraneous factors to 'prove you're Town.' Like even if you didn't catch four Scummates sending a message, the mere fact you posted publicly that you thought you did means we all know your alignment.

EDIT: I'm speaking as a former host now and trying to retain objectivity; my own comments in no way reflect my own alignment, as evidenced by the fact that everything I just said equally applies regardless of my alignment. Just clearing that up.
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Unread 09-27-2011, 10:10 PM   #413
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To be fair though, it could be part of a gambit, since he didn't say any names, said he wouldn't act on it.

Like, he could just be saying, "Hey, people can see your PMs. Also, scuuuuum might have been found!"

I'd like some confirmation on whether or not I can look at the screenshots that I took though. I'll save them for now, and look later.
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Unread 09-27-2011, 10:12 PM   #414
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To be fair though, it could be part of a gambit, since he didn't say any names, said he wouldn't act on it.
If this is a gambit, it's a gambit that should really be against the rules for so many reasons that it makes the whole "Don't Delete Posts / Don't Talk about this in Chat" rules look petty and inconsequential by comparison.
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Unread 09-27-2011, 10:13 PM   #415
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Mainly, I took them as a way of fact checking what Bookie says, if he's allowed to say. Since I think I snagged them fast enough after he posted. We'll see, I guess.
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Unread 09-27-2011, 10:16 PM   #416
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If this is a gambit, it's a gambit that should really be against the rules for so many reasons that it makes the whole "Don't Delete Posts / Don't Talk about this in Chat" rules look petty and inconsequential by comparison.
Yeah, that's true. Though, I remember your Mafia game saying metagaming was allowed at your own risk, so I dunno if a modkill is called for, especially since this one didn't have a formal rules post.

From your game, it seems like it was something that was just dangerous to do, rather than expressly forbidden.

I dunno, Fenris's call.
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Unread 09-27-2011, 10:28 PM   #417
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Yeah, that's true. Though, I remember your Mafia game saying metagaming was allowed at your own risk, so I dunno if a modkill is called for, especially since this one didn't have a formal rules post.
Eh.
I originally had a rather long post here detailing exactly why this doesn't technically qualify as metagaming and the pragmatic issues that this behavior presents etc., but instead I'll let Fenris come back to this, flip out upon reading everything and make his own judgments on the matter.

Really, the lesson here is that we shouldn't rely on NPF PMs for scum to communicate, scum needs to communicate via e-mail or something else that no one here can track. The lesson here is also to PM the Host first whenever stuff like this happens. And finally, the lesson here is for Snake to not try to put on 'objective former Host hat' and keep his own mouth shut. The end!
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Unread 09-28-2011, 12:08 AM   #418
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play the game right

re: bookie, I'mma go do some soul-searching. I have plenty of stuff to worry about doing without you guys cheating creeping up on my "shit to take care of" meter so if you all could just refrain from that shit, that'd be nice.

for now, send me the list of people you saw and what they were doing. It's wholly possible they weren't discussing mafia-related things.
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Unread 09-28-2011, 12:18 AM   #419
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SOUL SEARCHED

Mr.Bookworm, Sweetie Belle, Cutie Mark Crusader, Town-aligned was sent to a dungeon on the moon.

IT IS NOW NIGHT ONE. NIGHT ONE ENDS FRIDAY NIGHT, 10 PM, CST.

(This means don't post in the thread until Friday night, 10 PM, CST.)
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Unread 09-28-2011, 12:26 AM   #420
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Oh, and put yourselves on invisible mode, goddamn. All of you.
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