Valve Mafia - "You are all incompetent cowards!"

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

I mean, I don't know if it's plausible, but if we lynch Ryong (especially with the Aldurin fiasco), on the small faith that Greg is who he says he is, then he can save one of us tonight, you can scan one of his other attributes as yes/no, and then we and go from there?

That's IF this entire plan doesn't go belly-up in the first place.

Just sayin'.

[Ecks]

Okay, my pm went sort of like this (paraphrasing here):

"I'm proud of you son."
"Dad, are you space?"
"Yes, now we are a family again."

But that's not what Ryong actually said. Random failure!

So yeah, Space Core hilarity. Why did I get the crazy one?

Moogle needs to chime in. Other than that I still think we're safer lynching Ryong and letting Rhiya off Bahamut the night action, while we choose one of the mason group to scan greg. If thats a sound enough plan I say we go for it, unless there is compelling enough evidence to vote in another direction.

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

So options are:

Sifright: Vote Greg, Rhiya kills Bahamut, Scan Ryong.

Ecks: Vote Ryong, Rhiya kills Bahamut, Scan Greg.


... essentially?

[Sifright]

Yes, that is correct.

I'd also like to point out that killing Ryong is silly of all the unverified players he is the most trust worthy due to his win condition claim early on.


My biggest worry is if Rhiya is actually mafia.

That would lead to, 2/7

if we end up lynching a blue

2/6 Then Rhiya and her mafia mate get a kill in each

leading to 2/4 meaning mafia wins.

Edit: bluuuh fucked up my post with bad copy/pasting

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

Honestly? The same could be said about the Masons being mafia and orchestrating this cunning ruse. However, once again, yadda yadda Greed's death yadda...

You can't trust me fully. But what are the odds of you guys winning if you really think I'm scum and knock me off today, assuming I have either mafia or SK role?

Night would look like this:

Sif Mason
Moogle Mason
Ecks Mason

Bahamut (??)
Ryong ('confirmed BLU')
Greg (??)

If offing me reduces a kill count by 1, you're still looking at 2 killers. They may go for a mason each, especially now that means they can sway the vote their way:

Mason
Mason
Mason

Ryong (??)
Bahamut (??)
Greg (??)

Rhiya
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I'm going to say this (another scummy comment woo), that IF, say, I was the vigilante, and the mafia know I'm not siding with them, then they will try to get rid of the last Town-aligned killer role as well, leaving what my above figures show - decisive town victory.

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'Course, if the Masons themselves are mafia (which at this point I think is highly unlikely), we're boned either way since we're so trusting of them all

But let's not think that eh?

Also, wait until Gregness replies? there's still 2 whole days left to ponder, or we can end this early.

[Ecks]

Sif, what evidence do we have that he wasn't lying with his win condition claim? Did greed scan him or something or were we just taking his word for it? I am still really unsettled that earl wound up dead after accusing him. What if youre wrong? One scan on Ryong has already failed. What if gregs claim is legit and we lose our doc, giving scum one less obstacle to victory. The only confirmables right now are you, me, and moogle. I dont trust anyone else enough to give them the benefit of the doubt after the results from last night. If Rhiya is who she says she is, then she'll most likely use her night kill on bahamut. If we lynch greg and youre wrong sif, we're fucked.

[Rhiya Ravenwing]

Originally Posted by Ecks

*SNIP*
If we lynch greg and youre wrong sif, we're fucked.

Nope.

BLU is fucked if I'm a big fat dirty motherslotting liar in my Vig claim and have been playing you guys all along.

If I am telling the truth, selecting Ryong or Greg to lynch doesn't matter in the outcome. I will knock Bahamut out at night (or attempt to), the baddies will potentially have to kill me (at the least), leaving majority Masons to point fingers during the day should there still be baddies around.

What we're debating here is how fast to end this game, and if it's Greg or Ryong we kill, should you be inclined to trust me in my Vig claim.

It all boils down to whether or not I'm a killer and I'm on your side.

[Moogle0119]

I'm with Ecks in that I don't really trust anyone anymore outside of our mason group. Ryong's investigation coming back as negative really makes me suspicious of him again despite his claiming the correct win condition back on Day 1.

However, I do agree with the plan that Rhiya is laying out for the time being. If Rhiya ends up killing somebody else other than Bahamut then we lynch her tomorrow regardless of any claims of "mis-directed kills" or whatnot. Because honestly that's the best I can come up with without being able to tell exactly what roles people are when they get killed during night. I'll vote with whatever Ecks and Sif decides on though.

P.S. I should be able to post more consistently now, computer is fixed (thanks for putting up with my absence).

[BahamutFlare]

Well, if I don't die, for some odd reason during the night, you guys aren't killing me in the morning. That much is for certain. All these plans hitch on Rhiya being Vig and doing the right thing.

Equipment:
BONK! Atomic Punch
Tiny Little Head

Unvote: Gregness
Vote: Ryong

[Ryong]

We currently have two killers, rpgdemon was murdered last night, remember?